NHS - Women’s rights compromised by gender ideology

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But when it comes to conflicting rights in a public institution like the NHS, decisions must be made with democratic consensus and full understanding that certain policies cannot be blindly endorsed simply because one minority is shouting the loudest for them.’ She said there ‘can be no compromise when it comes to women’s rights’.

another interesting article from the DM based upon report by Nimco Ali, the outgoing government tsar on tackling violence against women

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590761/Policy-Exchange-claims-NHS-seriously-compromised-gender-ideology.html

A medically trained clinician who actually believes they have actually changed sex on issue of a GRC is a problem and probably shouldn’t be allowed to treat any patients on the basis that their understanding of human biology is fucked.

Here is a link to the PE report

policyexchange.org.uk/publication/gender-identity-ideology-in-the-nhs/

Quite agree @TheYummyPatler

So many people and organisations playing along with their game though, probably makes it easy to shut that part out.

Don't get me started on patients being able to define their own gender (sex not even a thing any more on forms), when it impacts on the type of care they need but might not get. Everyone is being failed here.

I started my own thread, by accident, with a link to the original Policy Exchange report. When I went to request a deletion, I saw that it has been hidden whilst the MN team look at it. I then posted the link on this thread, but it has been hidden also. I expect there is an issue with the link.

If you want to read it - if you go to Policy Exchanges website, there is a link to the report on the landing page.

Remember - some NHS trusts are so morally bankrupt that they have policies allowing male born sex offenders to be placed on women's wards. It still gives me a shock to realise that the NHS employ people so dangerous and toxic that they actively look for ways of placing these dangerous men alongside unwell women and girls:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9854261/Convicts-born-male-identify-female-placed-women-wards.html

@Appletreefarmyard it's not hidden any more.

@Appletreefarmyard thank you for the full link

this is even more depressing

In November 2022, Dr Navina Evans, Chief Executive of Health Education England (HEE), committed the organisation to ‘to become active trans and non-binary allies.’16 The statement references ‘the public debate’ around trans rights, but proceeds to ‘ally’ itself to just one side of it

utter bloody capture.

freedom of information requests revealed up to 30 sexual assaults against females on hospital property at the Bristol trust.

This reads as if it's across the whole trust, but from the Policy Exchange link it seems to be 30 in just 1 hospital.

Bother. 1st para should be a quote.

yes, I think it says only hospital though refers to the hospital being the largest in the trust

So what you're saying is that we should not talk about sexual assaults within the NHS that are a result of a specific policy, but instead we should be 'shouting' about the conservatives? Lie back and think of Labour, is that it?

And anyone who doesn't do as you say/think/believe is a 'coward'?

What if they just disagree? You don't really make a lot of sense, tbh.

Thanks OP and pps for all the links. This seems hugely significant.

I was sad to see Nimco go from her post.

This is why the word gender is dangerous. I dont need to know or care what gender someone thinks they are. I only need to know their sex

Ah really? Under what legislation and powers, I'd like to know!

Thank you for this thread OP and thank you to Nimco Ali if she is reading this. I too am sad to see her go from her post.

I really think that we need to repeal the GRA, it is ludicrous the NHS is saying that women should be fine with receiving care from someone with a GRC for one thing how could anyone know since it is illegal to ask or to disclose that someone has one. As previously stated there is no requirement to have had full genital surgery, many people will know that surgical removal of body parts doesn’t anyway alter the sex of the person.

I think we must get the GRA repealed to end the legal fiction which will hopefully free us up to end the fiction more widely in institutions.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4688427-repeal-the-gra?page=1

I have seen a glimmer of hope. The NHS online form for 111 only asks for sex at birth, and states that online triage needs sex not gender identity. If you’re not comfortable with disclosing that, you can call 111, but there is no room on the form for gender identity.

Progress?

Who is taking Iver from Nimco Ali of she is the outgoing tzar?

IDK, Jamie Wallis.?

TheYummyPatler · Today 09:02

This is a policy that can only benefit those whose motives are problematic. The majority of HCPs would (and should) want to support their patients’ dignity, and that means stepping aside when they know a patient does not want to be treated by someone if their sex.

I think you've put that very well indeed.

The very first reply and it's full of whataboutery.

F. Write 100 lines: "must do better".

Not to take anything away from Nimco Ali, but the report was written by Lottie Moore, a brilliant young woman at Policy Exchange. Nimco wrote the foreword but credit to Lottie for the bulk of the work.

TheYummyPatler · Today 09:02

This is a policy that can only benefit those whose motives are problematic. The majority of HCPs would (and should) want to support their patients’ dignity, and that means stepping aside when they know a patient does not want to be treated by someone if their sex.

Well said, and needs repeating and sharing.

I do not see that a HCP who uses a GRC to insist on their access to handle a patient who has specifically requested same sex care (and has therefore obvious reasons for doing so) is insisting on anything less than intentional assault. And as we know, a patient in placed in this awful position, is likely to be exposed to the coercion of submit to this assault or all care will be withdrawn.

It is wicked. I do not use that word lightly.

As for that silly and childish term 'ally' - it's the language of the playground and student councils, and it means 'I am taking sides'. It has no place in public services that rely upon impartiality and values not bogged down in playground gang politics and using others to express yourself.

Thank you for all the links. So much distress caused by deliberate conflation of sex and gender and lack of clarity in the Equality Act.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4668426-petition-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex?page=1

Kudos to Nimco Ali for being so clear. More sunlight

NHS also compromised with regards to safeguarding children. Psychiatry is a captured profession encouraging children in a belief that they are ‘born in the wrong bodies’ rather than supporting them to accept the healthy bodies they were born with.