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Police investigate 'flasher' gender recognition reform protester

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IwantToRetire · 26/12/2022 18:36

While critics shouted “shame on you” at the MSPs. One woman lifted their skirt and showed what initially appeared to be her genitals.

The woman shouted, “if you are not going to be decent, I am going to be indecent.”

However, it later transpired that she had been wearing some form of fake pubic wig.

According to the Scotsman, police did not arrest the individual immediately, however, the force has since received complaints and enquiries are ongoing.

uk.news.yahoo.com/police-investigate-flasher-gender-recognition-140324522.html

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Helleofabore · 29/12/2022 08:04

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Helleofabore · 29/12/2022 08:30

Sorry, I just posted something I pasted that was actually a post I had created from the start of the thread and then I did a bit for now but did a selection error.

Although, the first bit still is kind of relevant but just mistimed… oops.

Helleofabore · 29/12/2022 08:32

This is the part I wanted to post. Apologies.

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As to the educational value. Any prop that makes the discussion with women and men about female pelvic health easier to have, is successful.

If you (general you) find issue with it, that really does become your own issue.

If Elaine can capture attention of women who need this information, who wouldn’t take it in if it looked too unapproachable, who would just gloss over diagrams that either didn’t interest them, didn’t seem relevant to them at that time or felt insurmountable for whatever reason, but would listen to a woman with vulva costume on, it would be considered successful for Elaine’s purpose. If they listen and remember or watched a whole show about it, the costume has done its job.

So fucking what if some people find it ‘crass’, communication about difficult topics happens in many ways, this is just one of them.

(By the way Rhiannon, applause to your friend for such a brilliant costume!!)

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 08:49

Helleofabore · 29/12/2022 08:30

Sorry, I just posted something I pasted that was actually a post I had created from the start of the thread and then I did a bit for now but did a selection error.

Although, the first bit still is kind of relevant but just mistimed… oops.

I was reading the post above this one thinking I might just pop my head round the door to see if Helle's OK and wanted a cuppa.

Then I read on. As you were. The offer of a cuppa is still on the table mind.

Helleofabore · 29/12/2022 09:02

I hope you had some sleep boiled. After 8 days of close confines of hotel rooms with my delightful snorer, I felt your sleeplessness.

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 09:04

Did you ever watch that video of the archaeologist making water proof concrete on the beach the traditional ancient Roman way? She cured the cement in wooden box that she tossed into the waves, timed and the hauled back to shore with a rope.did

Geisha, oh that triggered a memory, I think I did.

My mission today is to find a decent diagram of all of a woman's womanly bits and reaquaint myself with the proper names of everything.

Helleofabore · 29/12/2022 09:07

And I found the ‘was it a vagina was it a …. ‘ was just a distraction. Either way, I had remember it as a vagina costume, but now due to writing that post, will call it properly a ‘vulva’ costume. I do love the fact it has a clitoral hood though. And that Elaine has a clitoris ‘mistletoe’ Christmas decoration.

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 09:18

I surprising did Helle, I think. Until 5.54 (What is it with my cat and 5.54am at the moment) who woke me up as I'd kicked his blanket off the bed and could i please wake up and put it back...but I've always spare capacity for a snooze followed by a little nap.

I really should start identifying as a cat, I have their sleep patterns!

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 09:21

And that Elaine has a clitoris ‘mistletoe’ Christmas decoration

I wonder how many people ended up with one of those in the house not realising what it was . Had I known there was such a thing i would have been tempted to buy everyone one as a sticking filler, any labels saying exactly what it was removed of course!

MassiveWordSalad · 29/12/2022 11:53

I think Elaine's costume makes perfect sense in raising awareness of pelvic floor issues. Yes, she could walk around dressed as a pelvic floor muscle, but she'd just look like a steak taking a stroll. If you're a woman who develops pelvic floor issues your vulva is where your pelvic organs may be heading as they prolapse, and your unreliable, leaky urethra is located within your labia.

MassiveWordSalad · 29/12/2022 12:11

I think someone posted this (or something similar) on another thread, but Elaine's protest has a long historical precedent whereby many cultures have seen the vulva as a sacred protective symbol. In Britain and Ireland, you can still see a sheela-na-gig protecting the entrance to some old churches. Given that an exposed vulva was once believed to have the power to quell a storm, her protest was entirely appropriate Wink www.suppressedhistories.net/sacravulva/wardingoff.html

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 12:22

After reading that @MassiveWordSalad can I just say

"ALL HAIL THE VIBRANT VULVA"

End statement.

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 12:41

I'm just imaging if this juggernaut of parallel universe living continues the history books will read:

Of course before the era of calm and serenity that is now our Brave New World a decades long battle raged whilst the Terfs caused chaos with their rampant and violent use of hurty words, peaceful protests, occasional mr gendering and the heinous utilisation of a fake fur merkin , not even hemmed, but with a pocket.

Many of our number were brutally wounded and maimed by the hurty words and that is why we still to this day remember the TRA 3 who so tragically lost their lives when they accidentally ran in front of the number 38 bus because they were late home for their tea after having to throw pies into Terfs faces and flash lady penises at the horrible Terfs.

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 12:43

Sentence structure and full stops have also been abandoned in this Brave New World

nilsmousehammer · 29/12/2022 12:45

It can take a decade or two but in every political movement like this that tries to impose a false reality, truth bursts out and takes over. The Romans tried for about 400 years and didn't succeed.

Onnabugeisha · 29/12/2022 12:46

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 12:43

Sentence structure and full stops have also been abandoned in this Brave New World

Letts goe back to 16th centurie speling to! No more SPAG rulz!

nilsmousehammer · 29/12/2022 12:47

As any fule kno

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 12:48

nilsmousehammer · 29/12/2022 12:45

It can take a decade or two but in every political movement like this that tries to impose a false reality, truth bursts out and takes over. The Romans tried for about 400 years and didn't succeed.

Having grown up in Chester...but they did leave behind some fascination STUFF. Well all those years of school trips round the bloody walls amphitheatre and rows served me well didn't it. STUFF!I

Oh my shopping here! Yay!

IcakethereforeIam · 29/12/2022 12:50

I had bestowed upon me the power of bigly words. But, with bigly power comes bigly responsibility. I've seen little opportunity to exercise this power (and Goddess knows I've been gagging for the chance). Any road up:

ALL HAIL THE VIBRANT VULVA

Ahem!

SinnerBoy · 29/12/2022 13:29

Libby Brooks, writing in the Guardian. It's fairly neutral, compared to their usual gushing praise:

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/21/scotlands-gender-recognition-bill-became-a-lightning-rod-for-wider-issues

But the bill has become a lightning rod for far wider debates around the meaning of the word “woman”, the nature of inclusion and the security of women’s spaces, while opponents argue that the simple change significantly expands the size and nature of the cohort of applicants for a GRC, with the potential for predatory males to exploit this in order to access vulnerable women.

A few months ago, they wouldn't even have acknowledged that.

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 13:38

IcakethereforeIam · 29/12/2022 12:50

I had bestowed upon me the power of bigly words. But, with bigly power comes bigly responsibility. I've seen little opportunity to exercise this power (and Goddess knows I've been gagging for the chance). Any road up:

ALL HAIL THE VIBRANT VULVA

Ahem!

I love you.

If I make you cake, you choice of course, (although I do make, even if I say so myself, the most amazing cherry Madeira cake) will you lend me your bigly words power on alternate Tuesday's in January, between 1 and 2pm. Only during odd numbered years obviously (looks at new calendar) Wouldn't want to risk breaking it, as I am rather clumsy.

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 13:59

And if you won't share will you at least do it again but this time do "BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL"

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 14:01

Onnabugeisha · 29/12/2022 12:46

Letts goe back to 16th centurie speling to! No more SPAG rulz!

Thou is my tablets go to for you. Every single bloody time.

nilsmousehammer · 29/12/2022 14:04

Boiledbeetle · 29/12/2022 12:48

Having grown up in Chester...but they did leave behind some fascination STUFF. Well all those years of school trips round the bloody walls amphitheatre and rows served me well didn't it. STUFF!I

Oh my shopping here! Yay!

I may have quite enjoyed the past few weeks of Christmas carols where the pagan keeps on showing through the cracks even after 2000 years, causing me to mutter 'you missed a bit.... and another bit.... and another bit...'

MassiveWordSalad · 29/12/2022 14:12

And here resideth the true power of Gretskull.

The mighty vulva of the Sorceress!