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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Two Survivors Allege They Were “Groomed,” Sexually Exploited By Staff at Scottish LGBT Youth Charity

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WarriorN · 22/12/2022 19:12

Care of ripx4nutmeg and Reduxx

reduxx.info/exclusive-two-survivors-allege-they-were-groomed-sexually-exploited-by-staff-at-scottish-lgbt-youth-charity/

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 04/01/2023 12:50

yep. the thing that rings alarm bells for me is people who want to tell children how to have 'good' sex and to achieve sexual pleasure. that just straight up isn't something that needs to be taught in schools

Children and young people are also receiving a very different account via porn.

FrancescaContini · 04/01/2023 12:56

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 01/01/2023 20:13

yep. the thing that rings alarm bells for me is people who want to tell children how to have 'good' sex and to achieve sexual pleasure. that just straight up isn't something that needs to be taught in schools

I agree. Adults in whatever setting talking to children about sexual enjoyment is totally inappropriate. Cringe, as my DC would say - and more.

WarriorN · 05/01/2023 08:07

From wings over Scotland:

wingsoverscotland.com/raise-all-of-the-flags/

The report advocates a new criminal offence that does not require any proof or intention of harm. It will be illegal to say the ‘wrong thing’ even if it is totally harmless.”
Those who were paying attention to the Scottish Government’s terrifyingly illiberal Hate Crime Bill a couple of years ago (now law, but not yet actually implemented) will have immediately felt a chill at those words. But when we dug down for the source material, what we found was so alarming that it’s hard to find measured and moderate words for it. Nevertheless, we’ll try.
The root of the story is a report produced for the Scottish Government by something called The Expert Advisory Group On Ending Conversion Practices (henceforth “the Group”). Its membership is a Who’s Who of the sort of people the Scottish Government likes to pay to agree with it.

The name at the top of the list, Blair Anderson of the Scottish Greens, will be familiar to Wings readers from one of the most disturbing stories this site has ever run.
LGBT Youth Scotland was at the heart of the worst paedophile scandal in Scottish history, and less than two weeks ago referred itself to the police over some extremely serious new allegations of historic grooming and child abuse.

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WarriorN · 05/01/2023 08:08

Try again.

From wings over Scotland, clearly my quotes from the article were too much to handle:

wingsoverscotland.com/raise-all-of-the-flags/

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WarriorN · 05/01/2023 08:09

If mn can't handle this, how the hell are the children for whom this is playing out in real time in Scotland?

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WarriorN · 05/01/2023 08:10

Fresh horrors for Scotland www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4712765-fresh-horrors-for-scotland

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WarriorN · 05/01/2023 08:12

The individual at the centre of this thread appears to have contributed to a report that helped inform the Scottish hate crime bill.

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onyttig · 05/01/2023 08:21

It is remarkable that one of the ‘lived experience’ experts appears to be someone whose condition means she cannot actually recall her own lived experiences…

I mean… it’s not being discriminatory to suggest that may be a significant barrier to being suitable for the role. One for which no reasonable adjustment could be made.

(Also, what makes an experience ‘lived’? Are there unlived experiences?)

Megan1992xx · 05/01/2023 08:35

Safeguarding women from men in dresses is also safeguarding children, it is a win win.

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2023 08:39

WarriorN · 05/01/2023 08:12

The individual at the centre of this thread appears to have contributed to a report that helped inform the Scottish hate crime bill.

The sad thing is that I no longer find that even slightly surprising.

ArabellaScott · 13/01/2023 09:25

FFS.

'...a former volunteer with the organization has now come forward with new allegations, emphatically asserting that there were no child safeguarding measures in place whatsoever while he was involved with the charity.'
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'Justin says that adult volunteers were imposing their political and social values upon the young service users.

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'Justin says that one of his first tasks in the office as a volunteer was helping staff “destroy” any reference to the charity’s former CEO, James Rennie.'
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'Unpaid volunteers, many of whom did not have professional qualifications, were working directly with minors.

“It was mainly the unpaid volunteers that tended to do the more direct work with the young people,” Justin says, adding that some of the minor service users had been referred to the charity through social services and were considered quite vulnerable.'
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'During a workshop on the first day of the gathering, Justin says he watched an adult volunteer new to the organization “openly flirt” with two of the teen service users, who were approximately 14 to 16 years old.'

Shut this organisation down ten years ago, already. And get it OUT of our schools.

And WHY is the investigative journalism falling to Reduxx (who are fabulous) - where is our media? Where are the BBC? Where are all the papers?

Johnduttonsbuttocks · 13/01/2023 11:38

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 26/12/2022 17:11

Reading the story about the baby was difficult to stomach… A very hard read overall. It’s really sad I used to be a huge supporter of the LGBT community… I believe that once upon a time it was full of kind people with truly good hearts. But no more. I will not be silent and watch this happen to innocent people no matter who they are, what pronouns they use and no matter if it destroys my reputation. This is horrible all around. They are now power hungry monsters exploiting people!

This is the sort of attitude (an understandable one) us old-fashioned LGB people dread. We will be tarred by the madness of the gender ideologues and deviants.

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 13/01/2023 15:10

Johnduttonsbuttocks · 13/01/2023 11:38

This is the sort of attitude (an understandable one) us old-fashioned LGB people dread. We will be tarred by the madness of the gender ideologues and deviants.

My comment was poorly worded. It's the communities that support the extreme trans insanity that I take issue with. I have no problem with LGB people. But in my mind I sort of separate LGBT+ and LGB as their own entities with different goals. Does that make sense? I'm bisexual myself so I certainly take no issue with gay lesbian or bisexual people.

Johnduttonsbuttocks · 13/01/2023 15:18

Yes, it makes sense and thank you for clarifying. I am pretty scared of the backlash, though.

ArabellaScott · 13/01/2023 23:22

LGB people have been used.

nilsmousehammer · 14/01/2023 10:03

Johnduttonsbuttocks · 13/01/2023 15:18

Yes, it makes sense and thank you for clarifying. I am pretty scared of the backlash, though.

This is one of the reasons why the LGBA is fought so hard against. It's an existential threat in that it represents separate and dissenting voices to the political lobby that tries so hard to say they are the voice of everyone in the acronynm, all of them, all wanting what the political lobby wants, and politicians should listen to them alone.

Empowermenomore · 15/01/2023 13:46

this is very disturbing! Nothing has been learn from the worst grooming cases in UK!

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