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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let's try mixed-sex ice hockey!

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NecessaryScene · 09/12/2022 09:13

It looks like some genius in the NHL decided it would be a good idea to do some mixed-sex ice hockey, as an "All-Trans Draft Tournament". Jon Kay reports here:

quillette.com/2022/12/09/ignoring-biological-reality-puts-female-hockey-players-at-risk/

This happened in mid-November, but they appear to have avoided publicising the event. It wasn't pretty.

Aside from a tweet containing four photos of the November 19th–20th event, the NHL provided no substantive information about how the tournament unfolded. Nor did media outlets such as Hockey News, whose reporting consisted instead of cheery tournament summaries (“The arena was just buzzing with trans joy for two solid days”) sourced to the organizers’ social media accounts.

Vice sent a five-person film crew to cover the tournament, including two cameramen, but so far hasn’t reported anything on what that unit filmed. So as far as I know, in fact, I’m the first person to publicly report the events described below.

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A single team, Pink, ended up stacked with physically imposing biological men (i.e., trans women). And by no coincidence, that team also went on to become tournament champion.

This awkward outcome may help explain why no one involved with the tournament seemed anxious to publicize event details once things were over. Team Pink’s victory over Black in the finals—which I was able to watch on video, along with all the other games—was an embarrassing 7–1 rout. According to one rink-side source who attended the tournament, Team Pink players even called a meeting during the second period in order to discuss whether it would be best to end the game prematurely. [...] Team Pink’s she/hers were evidently instructed to stop running up the score, with #29 being relegated to defensive duty.

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“I don’t know how the teams were made,” that aforementioned rink-side source told me. “But any [fan] could see that this couldn’t possibly be fair, and that someone could get hurt—and someone did.”

That someone was Team Black player #91, a self-described FTM (female-to-male transgender) player who was pushed to the ice by a much larger she/her member of Team Pink—#90, who self-describes publicly as “a bisexual trans woman”—with three minutes left in the first period. The contact doesn’t look particularly serious when you watch it on video. It may even have been entirely accidental. But the size imbalance between the two skaters was so great that the Team Black player ended up being propelled head first into the boards with enough force to deliver a concussion.

As the Vice crew continued to film, players clustered around the seemingly knocked-out #91. Shortly thereafter, a panicky voice booms out from amid the scrum, “Get a stretcher! Get a medic!” And the audience, which had formerly been burbling enthusiastically in response to the arena announcer’s trans-positive patter, fell silent. It would take more than 17 minutes for the head-injured player to be placed on a stretcher and wheeled off the ice. When the game eventually re-started, a subdued mood persisted till the final buzzer.

A video of that incident is at the linked piece, as if we needed another nasty M-v-F sports injury video.

For fuck's sake.

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PissedOffAmericanWoman · 12/12/2022 22:05

So sorry I shouldn’t say guys in a room full of women. One of them might be trans and feel dysphoric.

Taytotots · 05/03/2023 11:29

In my part of Canada the youth League is mixed. However, it usually ends up being one or two (biological) girls on a mostly female team. All teams have to have at least one female player (haven't checked policy on trans though but presumably identifying as female counts in Canada). Providing teams balanced overall it seems ok. Checking allowed from u13 leagues but you tend to get a few players on team that do more of this. Having said that, hockey is pretty dangerous overall and lots of injuries so certainly potential injury if players bigger. Plus bigger players are faster and stronger and if a team has more they usually win (some freakishly tall 10 year olds in a team that always wins in my sons league).

Taytotots · 05/03/2023 11:31

@Gonners think have certainly changed from Mr Gs time. The girls definitely not afraid to be aggressive from what I have seen!

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