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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

14 year old girl’s stupendous article on Transgender Trends Website

42 replies

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 02/12/2022 15:23

Apologies if someone has already posted this.
www.transgendertrend.com/?cat=(id-cultural-influences-and-debate),(id-health-professionals-and-organisations

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SingingSands · 02/12/2022 15:43

Poor girl. How can the kids actually be concentrating on getting an education with all this getting in the way? Sad

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 15:58

thanks for this if was an interesting yet horrifying read.

It appears it is so much worse than it was just a couple of years ago. The infiltration into schools seems to have been rather successful.

These poor children, both those who have fallen into the rabbit hole and those that haven't are being treated appallingly.

I don't see any of this ending well

picklemewalnuts · 02/12/2022 16:03

Bless her heart.

What a terrifying situation for a child to be in.

BlackForestCake · 02/12/2022 16:16

She writes so well. I have thought for a while that school students are going to have to fight by themselves, having been let down so badly by their own teachers. And that’s a terrifying prospect when you’re a teenager.

NewStartIn50s · 02/12/2022 16:32

My friend said similar, her daughter is an anxious teen on the spectrum and she has been encouraged to join the school's LBTQ? group at lunchtime. She is really mixed up now because she feels she doesn't feel like a girl so must be a boy. All the students with learning differences and MH conditions seem to gravitate to the group. Poor things have no idea what is being pushed onto them

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2022 16:34

What this scary article shows is that some adults in those schools have become a danger to children. Enabling a school culture where bullying flourishes, wherechildren are scared to report safeguarding concerns, running LBGT etc groups in school and online where some of the behaviour towards younger children in terms of encouraging sexualised age inappropriate discussions literally fits the definition of grooming.

I hope TT forwards this to the Head of Ofsted & Sec of State for Education. Not that they'll do anything but yet again it adds to tsunami of warnings that Ofsted & the government have ignored in recent years about what's happening to children.

pairofrollerskates · 02/12/2022 16:48

Interesting article, testimony well presented. Certainly not written by a 14-year old girl, although perhaps transcribed on her behalf by a literate adult. I have read many, many under- and post graduate essays. Rarely are they as competently written as that.

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 02/12/2022 16:58

I think she may have written it with her mother, but I don’t think that takes anything away from the article. My DD is thankfully 22 and no longer an impressionable teen but it’s my 14 year old DS with ASD and gender critical views who’s been reprimanded for disrespect for. Saying girls can’t be boys.
I absolutely agree with the poster sayIng about dangerous adults in schools.
it’s frankly terrifying how insidious gender identity ideology has become in schools .

How do you even start dismantling the infrastructures in schools like the Equalities club. (The irony in that name though) without the students and probably teachers believing they’re being attacked by transphobes? I’m thinking of the website page on Mermaids which states exactly that as a. Response t the new that the Charity Commission is sufficiently concerned enough to shine some sunlight on the organisation.

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waterwitch · 02/12/2022 17:52

I’d love to hear Kier Starmer’s response to that

TheBiologyStupid · 02/12/2022 17:56

Frightening - poor girl! The government can't step in to put a stop to this nonsense in schools quickly enough.

lurchermummy · 02/12/2022 19:57

Sounds so like my DD who fell
down this exact rabbit hole at that age, LGBT society at school and all. Three years of self harming, starving herself, wearing boys clothes, presenting as a boy. Now she's as feminine as they come and much happier. But still has the self harm scars.

TheBiologyStupid · 02/12/2022 20:46

So sorry to hear that, lurchermummy - but glad that she's come out the other side.

HipTightOnions · 02/12/2022 21:01

I have always wondered what goes on at my school's LGBTQ club, but I have no way of finding out.

Poor girl, but at least she has her head screwed on right.

BluesandClues · 02/12/2022 21:25

I recently spoke with some parents whose child had been bullied out of a previous school for being ‘ordinary.’ They were incensed at the way the school had handled everything.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 02/12/2022 22:13

pairofrollerskates · 02/12/2022 16:48

Interesting article, testimony well presented. Certainly not written by a 14-year old girl, although perhaps transcribed on her behalf by a literate adult. I have read many, many under- and post graduate essays. Rarely are they as competently written as that.

I disagree, my dd was writing that well at 14. She is also a debater like this girl and if that is well taught they get a lot of training on structuring writing- certainly something that would improve many of the student essays I have seen.
I am sure she’s discussed it with her gender critical mum and that’s where the vocabulary comes from, but it does read like a bright teenager with debating experience to me.

TheMarzipanDildo · 03/12/2022 08:50

pairofrollerskates · 02/12/2022 16:48

Interesting article, testimony well presented. Certainly not written by a 14-year old girl, although perhaps transcribed on her behalf by a literate adult. I have read many, many under- and post graduate essays. Rarely are they as competently written as that.

I’ve known very clever 14 year olds that write like that.

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 03/12/2022 12:05

I agree, as a 14 year old my style was similar. I certainly could have written that at her age if I’d have had the confidence.

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Tricyrtis2022 · 03/12/2022 13:18

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 03/12/2022 12:05

I agree, as a 14 year old my style was similar. I certainly could have written that at her age if I’d have had the confidence.

I agree. At 14 I was very political and reading Orwell and Solzhenitsyn, so would have been quite capable of writing something similar to this girl.

Sidaway · 03/12/2022 13:19

If it was written by a 14-year-old, she's obviously had a GC parent or other influential adult talk to her about this, because of the vocabulary. I don't think many 14-year-olds olds would use the phrase "regressive sexist stereotypes" unless they'd heard it elsewhere.

At least she has listened and taken it on board. Good for her - she must be in a scary place. "It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends."

But reading this, she seems like a drop in the ocean. I keep seeing the phrase "the tide is turning", but it's not really, not while the majority of young people are so captured.

Not sure what the answer is - youth culture is very hard to change from the outside, as it thrives on feeling rebelious and different from the older generation.

Not pandering to it in schools would be a start (well done that teacher for keeping boys out of the girls changing rooms).

What are the government actually DOING about this FFS? They're not without power in this. And probably only two years left to take action.

JoodyBlue · 03/12/2022 13:57

I have no problem believing this is the work of a 14 year old girl. Children are all different with differing levels of maturity and articulacy according to their own natural tendencies. I was certainly making arguments at this age about things I felt strongly about. As for the vocabulary, kids listen and use what they hear to describe their experience. How else do they learn language? Moreover TT absolutely clear that this is her own work. I would trust Stephanie Davies Arai's word.

JoodyBlue · 03/12/2022 14:00

I suspect there are many many kids desperate for the adults to step in and prevent the oversexualisation of their education, and protect their ability to speak clearly. The teachers aren't doing it. The parents need to do it en masse. The kindness message drives me crazy. It is not kind to the majority. Sure accept everyone in how they want to present. But hold some kind of boundary for kids, like grown ups are supposed to.

drhf · 03/12/2022 15:45

I'll leave the safeguarding failures highlighted by this piece for others to comment on, but from a lesbian perspective, I was particularly appalled that 'butch', a term which many lesbians use to label ourselves, has been banned by the County Council as a 'transphobic slur'.

If gender non-conforming young lesbians are not allowed to use the word that lesbians developed to describe some of our identities and experiences, how are those girls supposed to become comfortable with themselves? Banning the word seems straightforwardly lesbophobic and harmful, and the LGBA should be registering a forceful objection.

Will TT let us know which County Council has this policy so it can be investigated? I'd also like to know which 'equality group' has been training the County Council to believe that 'butch' is a slur.

mach2 · 04/12/2022 08:47

If that piece is true, the infestation is massively worse than I thought.

SinnerBoy · 04/12/2022 09:07

mach2 · Today 08:47

If that piece is true, the infestation is massively worse than I thought.

It's absolutely shocking, not least because of the institutionalised, adult bullying, nor the porn on the "support group" website. Surely that alone should get the attention of the authorities?

And it's starting at a young age; you may remember my mention (old place) of my then seven year old daughter and her friend saying, "Ella's gender is Boy, because she likes climbing trees and is on the football team."

I was doing my best to try to gently explain the difference between sex and gender and they got all, "Eurrgh! You said a swear! We're not allowed to say that at school!"

mach2 · 04/12/2022 09:11

I know anecdotally via friends' kids that identifying as this or that is all the rage in schools. It could be written off as another teenage fad but for the involvement of the teachers.