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14 year old girl’s stupendous article on Transgender Trends Website

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HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 02/12/2022 15:23

Apologies if someone has already posted this.
www.transgendertrend.com/?cat=(id-cultural-influences-and-debate),(id-health-professionals-and-organisations

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SmartWatch · 04/12/2022 09:15

My son is in year 7 at a new school. It has and LGBT lunch club, I noticed. I asked him who goes to it and he said only the kids with what's that thing again? Autistic? Says it all doesn't it?

PermanentTemporary · 04/12/2022 09:17

I hope they've checked this piece; it's not the structure but more the phrases like 'and the like' or the use of 'one' as a pronoun, as well as the number of buttons it pushes, that makes me wonder if it's a piece written to get published so someone can prove TT doesn't check the provenance of its contributions.

Having said that, it does push lots of buttons, particularly the use of gender questioning by kids with high risk mental health problems to get the attention they crave, no natter how maladaptive it is.

Kucingsparkles · 04/12/2022 09:19

As I said elsewhere, I can absolutely believe this article. Also, I can believe it was written by a 14-year old. In terms of language skills my DDs could definitely write like this; they probably couldn't quite achieve the level of awareness of this writer because despite being extremely smart and knowing a lot of factual stuff, they're in some ways still childish in their emotional maturity - I think this is fine BTW, in case anybody takes offence at my description, children mature at different rates.

The Corridor of Righteous Material is something I've personally seen. A couple of years ago at Open Day at our catchment secondary - one whole corridor festooned with the various stripy flags, handmade alphabet-soup posters with all the catchphrases and biologically-incorrect blurb and dodgy stats and kid-friendly cartoons of baked bipeds. It was startling to me, as I hadn't long been corrupted into The Wrong Side of History back then.

(We didn't pick that school, not specifically because of the Corridor I hasten to add).

I can also confirm the sudden explosion of trans identification. This did happen in my DDs' school. Year 7, within the space of a few days/weeks, several girls* declared they were trans and had new names and pronouns (mostly NB apart from one who said they were a boy). The school have gone along with the names, I don't know about the pronouns.

*Girls in the correct meaning of "juvenile human female."

mach2 · 04/12/2022 09:51

When I was at school there was one girl who preferred action man and Tonka trucks to Barbie. Her parents just let her get in with it. She had her hair short and prefered trousers over skirts as she got older. She turned out to be gay.

I can't help but wonder if she would have been transed in this climate.

PermanentTemporary · 04/12/2022 10:16

That's the thing. I absolutely believe TRAs who say that their experience was nothing to do with liking the 'wrong' things for their sex, that it was a much more profound internal psychosexual experience and if anything, they made strenuous efforts to enjoy the 'right' things for their sex in order to fit in.

However, what we are seeing now is this complex adult experience being rendered into a simplified form for children. So you will get children who like the 'wrong' things for their sex being told this should mean they question their gender, and worse yet, no separation of gender and sex at all, because it's difficult for children to do that - the 'Mum, this is Max, they're a boy now' that we as parents are becoming extremely familiar with.

ickky · 04/12/2022 14:05

It doesn't surprise me, my niece recently when for an open day at Westminster Uni. There was barely any info on the courses available but it was festooned in flags and LGBTQI+ everywhere she looked.

She is still looking for a Uni.

MangyInseam · 04/12/2022 14:54

It also struck me as something maybe written together with a parent, mainly some of the vocabulary.

But what it describes is what I've seen in schools.

The tide is turning, I think - but it's at the policy level, a little in the media, some of the institutions at a high level. It is still totally infesting schools and youth groups and clubs and the internet.

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 05/12/2022 13:31

drhf · 03/12/2022 15:45

I'll leave the safeguarding failures highlighted by this piece for others to comment on, but from a lesbian perspective, I was particularly appalled that 'butch', a term which many lesbians use to label ourselves, has been banned by the County Council as a 'transphobic slur'.

If gender non-conforming young lesbians are not allowed to use the word that lesbians developed to describe some of our identities and experiences, how are those girls supposed to become comfortable with themselves? Banning the word seems straightforwardly lesbophobic and harmful, and the LGBA should be registering a forceful objection.

Will TT let us know which County Council has this policy so it can be investigated? I'd also like to know which 'equality group' has been training the County Council to believe that 'butch' is a slur.

I completely agree. How dare they say we can’t use the word butch? My favourite lesbians are butch ones , and it was quite normal when I came out in the early 90s to
see a butch/femme pairing.

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HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 05/12/2022 13:32

Which reminds me that at that particular time I was teased by straight people about being a “lipstick lesbian” . We’ve gone backwards, we really have.

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mach2 · 05/12/2022 19:22

It feels as if whole layers of management need to be got rid of across several sectors. The king march through the institutions has been all too successful.

Axolotlquestions · 05/12/2022 19:28

drhf · 03/12/2022 15:45

I'll leave the safeguarding failures highlighted by this piece for others to comment on, but from a lesbian perspective, I was particularly appalled that 'butch', a term which many lesbians use to label ourselves, has been banned by the County Council as a 'transphobic slur'.

If gender non-conforming young lesbians are not allowed to use the word that lesbians developed to describe some of our identities and experiences, how are those girls supposed to become comfortable with themselves? Banning the word seems straightforwardly lesbophobic and harmful, and the LGBA should be registering a forceful objection.

Will TT let us know which County Council has this policy so it can be investigated? I'd also like to know which 'equality group' has been training the County Council to believe that 'butch' is a slur.

Have a look at this! This is not even a gender critical resource.
www.justlikeus.org/blog/2022/04/26/lesbians-delay-coming-out-harmful-stereotypes/

‘Anti-trans’ stereotype is damaging
Overall, one in 20 (4%) lesbians have delayed coming out because being a lesbian is seen as ‘anti-trans’. This rises to 7% among lesbians aged 25 to 34.

mach2 · 06/12/2022 06:52

It's rather mad that in this day and age when gay marriage has been widely accepted that a substantial chunk is f lesbians are afraid to come out. I wonder what the figures are for gay men, where the reasons are the same. Do they face the same pressure?

mids2019 · 06/12/2022 07:12

Its like any other form of group mentality ; you become afraid to voice your concerns in case of retribution. this fear is as old as the hills.

It needs a strong stance from teachers unfortunatly to counteract the narrative but which teacher is going to possibly risk their career by taking an active stand? If teachers were guaranteed protection for clinging GC views then that may help (possibly?). A head teacher could set a certain culture but again if a high profile schools lead receives criticism from the TEA community again you have a problem.

Youth culture as has been said before is by its very nature rebellious but this rebellion has long lasting consequences for many people and can lead to scars. Adolescence involved finding identity but we shouldn't present false identiy as an option. As a scientist the rejection of biological fact seems like a lot of people are modern day Galileos persecuted by the church for the heresy of saying the earth revolves around the sun.

mids2019 · 06/12/2022 07:13

Might have been Copernicus - sorry.

BacktoSlack · 07/12/2022 21:18

The article has disappeared. Anyone know why?

Fargoer · 07/12/2022 21:31

Yes I also can’t see it, thought I might be looking in the wrong place

Redroseta · 16/06/2023 15:02

encourage all too watch this - a rare relief too see an honest conversation. Sad that its from 2020 & I'm not sure the conversation has not yet moved on.

Challenging the Gender Mythos | with Stephanie Davies-Arai

Support this channel: https://www.paypal.me/benjaminboyceSip the Nuance! https://www.teespring.com/boycemugStephanie's website: https://transgendertrend.comF...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsmJN9jYfR0

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