Today I found my bravery!

[Vebrithien]

Waiting for my DD to come out from her after-school club, in her primary school. Saw the poster below. Whilst I was looking, the deputy head of the school was also collecting his DC at the same time, and said hello, asked if I was okay.

I pointed out to him that the wording was incorrect (gender, not sex, as it should be). He asked about what it was in the Equalities Act. I confirmed that the Equalities Act states sex, not gender. Therefore, the poster was not showing the 9 protected characteristics correctly, as they are stated in law (and everything else was named correctly 😡)

He thanked me for bringing it to his attention, as it wasn't something that they had produced, but as it was showing in their school, it did need to be correct.

I'll be checking again, next week, for the poster, when I next collect DD.

I’ve just pointed out to my adult education college that sex based facilities are important to women and ethnic groups and sent the sex matters links to the college HOD and volunteered to join their sex based womens group (which doesn’t actually exist) The fact that they don’t have a womens group but do have an LBGT+++ Group inputting opinions on diversity is telling.

Hopefully if we all keep plugging away sense will prevail

@Iheartjoanne have you heard of Maya Forstater, Kathleen Stock, Katie Alcock, Jo Phoenix, Joan Smith, Rosie Duffield, Joanna Cherry, Karen Ingala Smith and a writer called JK Rowling? All vilified in different ways for calling out sex vs gender vs gender identity. Plus too many more to mention. Have you been living under a rock or are you just a goady fucker?

Of course I’ve heard of them. Why would you be so nieve to believe that someone wouldn’t know about these women? They are hardly hiding in the shadows.

Odd that you want to attack me and call
me a ‘goady fucker’. Although I’ve been called worse. Usually by men that don’t like a women with an opinion.

Since you brought up the other women, do you have any evidence of them being unable to point out a mistake on a poster?

@PumpkinQueens my remarks were made to a different poster unless you are sock puppeting as well as goading.

If you're going to be picky about wording, you really do need to get the name of the Act right.

Well done OP

This is how we kill this bollocks with fire-small individual push backs of the stonewall kool aid any and every where we find it such as to create a tidal wave of scientific reality which wipes out the gender woo.

What she pointed out was that sex does not equal gender and it is sex that is protected under the EA2010. Gender ideologists insist that gender is the characteristic which is protected - gender is a social construct and sex is biological but pointing this out tends to cause a backlash from the TRA lobby. That's why she is brave. And she is brave.

Well done! This stuff just slides in unnoticed and often unchallenged and people like you make a massive difference. Bravo!

Well done OP. I went stickering recently in my home town which floweth over with genderists and pink and blue stickers. It did feel brave at the same time as feeling daft that it should feel that way.

Thank you @Grammarnut

It felt like I had to be brave. My DD is in infants, she knows nothing about all the shit that is likely to be thrown at her as she grows up, simply because she is female. I want to protect her legal, sex based rights and protections.

But likewise, I don't want to be "that parent", that the school rolls their eyes at. I don't want her to suffer, or have people tarring her, because I believe, and have experienced, that sex matters.

And I truly, deeply apologise for pluralising the Equality Act 2010. A hearing impairment and autocorrect can do that to a person.

Name change fail, @Iheartjoanne /@PumpkinQueens?
😉

Oops!

I take it that the “Joanne” that @Iheartjoanne loves is not JKR?

Well done, OP. Accurate language is so important - especially when something is meant to refer to UK law and the Equality Act - and then misrepresents it, as you pointed out.

Well done. That was brave of you, given the current climate.

You are correct in what you said.

Glad that you got a reasonable response from the deputy head too.

Well done for pointing it out but clearly in a way that was firm and factual. The DH would have seen that you were polite, but serious. That carried wight.

But I do agree with @Iheartjoanne this isnt brave. It is necessary. But not brave. And no I am not a goady fucker, yes I have heard of all the names someone listed (as funnily enough I am often on twitter either commenting or forwarding tweets from those very same people). I am rather tired of people saying that they are supportive of GC/Womens rights view but wouldnt want to comment due to x, y, z excuse, but they do so much behind the scenes. Yeah - sorry don't believe a word of that. Integrity, as a professional, is about standing up and standing firm for the right cause. Most people have honesty but very few have integrity. I do.

thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch

What?

In the current climate, the OP, Vebrithien, has been brave, for picking up on this lie on a poster in her children's school, and pointing it out to the deputy head.

No drama, seems like an adult conversation was had.

Hope Vebrithien and her school and deputy head get together to rid the school of an odious, sexist, homophobic ideology.

That no outsiders thing, yuck. Narcissist dad. Your toddler in dress up is entirely unremarkable. Tell him he looks beautiful and stop him from hassling older kids.

It reads like the writer hasn't set foot in a primary school in at least a generation.

(PS in NoOutsiders world, shouldn't the dad be excommunicated for assuming the gender of everyone else in the story?)

About 3 years ago at a guess some GC person did a deep dive investigation into no outsiders showing how they want to indoctrinate young kids into queer theory. It was shocking. I can't find the link. It was about the time that Jess Phillips got involved in the Birmingham school protests. I'll keep looking.

Here: www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

I think it was brave if the OP felt nervous about doing it. Doing anything you are worried about is brave.

OP what you could do if you wanted, would be to follow up with an email.

Sort of

Dear DH,

Just a follow up on the No Outsiders poster that I mentioned to you last week. <thank you for taking it down/correcting it>. I was wondering about the organisation that produced it getting the protected characteristic of sex wrong on the poster, and whether they had a specific agenda, so I did a bit of research, and following that I am a bit concerned as to whether the school uses an other of their resources?

My concerns are .....

It might be better if the school got its resources for this from .... because ....

If you were writing further then probably need to include a paragraph explicitly saying no problem with trans people but concerned that sex is the protected characteristic, children mustn't be taught they can change sex, that gender identity is a belief or something.

@TeenDivided Thank you, now that I have stuck my head above the parapet, I don't intend to let this go.

"Nevertheless she persisted..."

We're at a tipping point with the damaging impact this ideology is having on children finally being acknowledged & spoken about. Now is the time for parents to speak out and challenge schools where there's unthinking promotion of trans ideology so that future generations of children are protected.

Well done OP.

Have you seen this thread @TeenDivided ?
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4684885-school-curriculum-a-personal-win