Balenciaga apologises for bondage bear advert involving child

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They're also taking legal action against its creator

What I want to know is who the hell signed it off and why were the parents happy to let it go ahead?

I've included the images for anyone who hasn't seen them.

I'd say that the judgment document on the table and the book are arguably little Easter eggs for creatives in the industry who like to abuse children.

Bloody hell I just googled it. Who the hell signed off on such a thing. It's so so worrying.

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I wonder how much more there is, hidden in plain sight, if you know the ‘code’

If left wing people are ignoring this story, what is your conclusion as to why?

Well, I‘d also prefer to be on the side of liberals or leftists, when fighting against child sexual exploitation aesthetics, but they stay mum. Pizzagate has seen to that. After that, criticizing art that looks like it might stimulate paedophiles ( while disturbing the average person), which was clearly in the mix there, alongside lunatic claims and theories (Hillary eats babies, pizza is Code for paedophilia…) became off-limits.

Nobody in liberal circles wants to sound like a Pizzagater after that madness - it is like a reflex. They shut down when that reflex is triggered, end of story.

Did you not yourself post mainstream coverage earlier?

I think I was conflating your comments with picklemewalnuts
To be fair, you did emphatically agree with their comments, so not too much of a leap to make that you share them

I'm not seeing the link with "Pizzagate". The images in this campaign are clear to see. They were put online - in public view - on purpose. Now it's: silence from celebs associated with the company, the company blaming one person, that person saying he just takes pictures in his style, and silence from numerous media outlets.

It all circles back to the fact the images were planned and taken and put online. There's no mystery. There's no secrecy. We can all see it with our own eyes.

Exactly this.

The more outlandish claims have been seized upon, and the main issue of organised child abuse is dismissed along with it. Anyone who even mentions it is now lumped in with the flat earthers.

I believe it’s completely true

Yes. I did some searching and all I found those 2 and an NBC article. Actually, the NY Post is centre right. You are the one complaining about the lack of voices on the left. I assume you are dissatisfied with left wing coverage and that's why you are complaining about right wing links on this thread - and I certainly found many, many commentators on the right talking about this. So did you find any other left wing commentators? Did you look?

Pizzagate started as something completely different, it was about a group of powerful people who abused and tortured children. That is was well known among powerful people, that it was well organised, there was a ‘code’ that they all knew etc.
As it gained traction, it grew more and more outlandish, into what it is now.
What we’re seeing in this balenciaga campaign is in line with the original ‘pizzagate’ allegations.

I know what Pizzagate is about. But I don't see this has echoes of it. The photos are plastered all over the internet.

No I did not look, I wanted to watch a commentary quickly before work and was faced by a farcical body language man pretending to be cut off and a woman talking about thanksgiving, mentioning the ad and then going off into pro life. I was disappointed that these were the clips of choice. I don’t really care about the news being left wing but they were very low quality clips. I’ve since learned they’re famous in America, god knows how! Why would someone post those when there would be plenty mainstream to share?

Oh and please show me where I have asked for a left wing story? You’re making stuff up in your rabid defence of shite tv 🤷🏻‍♀️

Most MSM are choosing to ignore it. Where's CBS, NYT, Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, PBS in the States on this? BBC and the Guardian over here?

So basically you can't be bothered to do your own research and are just on here to criticise what other people have found. You don't have to read or comment on these links. Do your own work.

Why would someone post those when there would be plenty mainstream to share?

Go on then, post the plenty of mainstream sources on this story.

I'm surmising that's what you want since Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens (both very famous) are not good enough for you as famous people you want to hear talking about this. So I'm assuming you want to hear from a famous voice on the left. I did specifically ask you who you want to comment on this. Apart from Kim Kardashian, I don't think you've answered the question. Whose coverage would satisfy you as a voice you agree with?

They’ve been posted already and I can comment on whatever I want to comment on! Don’t share clips if you can’t cope with comments.

Yep, I’m sure it could. Same as punks wearing Nazi uniforms in the 70s (not the literal fat right skinheads who came later, the original punks like Siouxsie doing it to shock people).

My in-laws work in fashion and art, I have met plenty of childless head-up-own-arse friends of theirs who would indeed think this was edgy and highly amusing because it shocks the Mumsies.

The Balenciaga creative team clearly thought this was hilarious and witty until they saw the backlash they were getting.

The artwork in the books in the balenciaga campaigns, depicting child abuse and torture are very similar in themes to the artwork displayed by Bodestain an article about his home. These are very disturbing collection by an artist called Biljana Djurdjevic. I believe that’s how the whole ‘pizzagate’ thing came about. Also I believe was art from Kim Noble, featuring many many scenes of organised child abuse, with ‘dissociating’ imagery. She is an artist with multiple personality disorder, and creates these art pieces with her different ‘identities’, one of whom she says is very young. The images are absolutely harrowing, and it’s clear that Kim Noble has been a victim of abuse.

It’s just the idea of these themes in art, which was inserted consciously in these balenciaga campaigns, which led me to get to thinking of it yesterday.

In general, I am certain that child sex-trafficking rings are used by state actors (secret services) to blackmail powerful people, including politicians. The Dutroux affair in Belgium, the Boys Town affair in the US, Epstein… And from a purely macchiavellian perspective, this tactic makes total sense, it is perfect.

As for Pizzagate (as it started, not what it became), I am just not sure. Contrary to my other examples, not one victim came forward. Nor witnesses. What you have are some guys with lots of political connections and with a weird taste. Those disturbing paintings of apparently abused children (even by the artist‘s own interpretation) might just be considered decorative or a good investment for the prominent collector, or might stimulate him, without him ever acting on his phantasies and maybe not even acknowledging them to himself.

Same goes for that pizza place owner who posted some pics and had some stage performances at his place that were in bad taste and laden with innuendo (much like those Balenciaga pics, just some of it more direct).

Pizzagate (as it started out) reminds me of the movie ,eyes wide shut‘. I saw the movie and it was about a strained marriage. Then I saw a careful artistic analysis of the movie that lays out in detail how it is about paedophilia. And now I simply don‘t know what to think. And Kubrick is dead, so no one can ask him.

@Karwomannghia - watch the Misan Harriman video linked to downthread. He's a very credible source

I'm very confused why you need commentary. I didn't watch either of the videos linked but I've read the Times and Telegraph articles.

If you don't understand why the mainstream left media isn't covering this, then you haven't been paying attention to queer theory.

Well I actually didn't post those clips you don't like. And by the tone of your posts, it is evidently you who cannot cope with a critique on your posts complaining, when you can't be bothered to contribute anything more constructive. But please, don't hesitate to say thank you to me for finding you some sources you think are more credible.

My earlier comment should have said Podesta, not sure where Bodestain came from?!?

As I said, while I’m not sure about the ins and outs of Podesta, and these images, I do believe in the underlying allegation of a network of powerful people abusing children. I absolutely do.

And I believe that these type of art pieces are a part of it, hiding beneath a veneer of plausible deniability of ‘interpretive’, ‘symbolic’ etc.

These balenciaga images have made me more certain of it

But, Clymene, not everyone from the left is sold on queer theory.

Derrick Jensen is on the (hard) left and his take- down of queer theory on some Campus is legendary, pointing out that acceptance of paedophilia is inherent in queer theory (it is on you Tube). And Hillary Clinton, a liberal, for all her flaws certainly knows what a woman is, I doubt she is a proponent of queer theory.