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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UK Drag Queen Charged for CSA materials

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burneruser · 05/11/2022 17:39

And was involved in the publication of a calendar sold to raise money for mermaids.

I'm not sure if this was covered in other recent threads or not, apologies if I missed it then.

reduxx.info/uk-drag-queen-charged-on-three-counts-related-to-child-sexual-abuse-materials/

"A drag queen who performed under the name ‘Miss Rachel Rear’ has appeared in court on charges related to the possession and production of indecent and prohibited images of children.
Andrew Duncan, 24, is facing multiple counts related to 17 pieces of child sexual abuse materials he was found with. Some of the materials were media of real children, and others were illegal fantasy depictions of children engaged in obscene, pornographic acts.
Among the photographs found on Duncan’s devices were some classified as ‘Category A’ — the most serious type. Images and video in this categoryy_ can depict penetrative sexual activity, bestiality, and/or sexual sadism involving children.
Duncan is alleged to also have been in possession of and produced child sexual abuse materials via digital means, otherwise known as a “prohibited image.” In the United Kingdom, prohibited images are non-photographic media created by computer generation, cartoon, or drawing which feature pornographic and obscene depictions of children."
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6577301/Drag-queens-pose-glamorous-calendar.html

UK Drag Queen Charged for CSA materials
OP posts:
picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2022 22:00

Leaving the calendar and mermaids out of it, this man is a drag queen and sex offender. Drag queens are adult entertainment as in, sexualised entertainment. They are performance sex workers.

Why are we keen for sexualised entertainers to entertain our kids?

Do we call for Cardi B to read stories to our kids, given her enormous success as a black woman? Or playboy bunnies? Why would we?

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:02

And please don't start denigrating sex workers on top.

I’m confused. How is suggesting if drag queens are ok to go into libraries and read to children, so are strippers denigrating anyone? I’m saying if one kind of adult entertainer is ok to entertain children, surely other types are?

burneruser · 05/11/2022 22:05

I jumped to a conclusion, but the rest is true. It appears he's sexually assaulted drag "colleagues" in the area too.

DQ have zero educational value in libraries and schools.

Why do Men in tight Lycra want to be around kids? What does it bring to their lives?
Why does a childrens charity think pics of men in drag clothes on their website and promoting their causes is a good look?

Drag is exaggerated sexualised parody of women.

How does that help diversity? Why does mermaids want to promote that? They're communicating to the boys that they should be sexualised parodies of girls and that constant parody and judgement of females in all media is probably one of the reasons girls are wishing to become boys.

OP posts:
YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:06

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 21:54

So you don’t believe drag is womanface? So it’s ok for men to mock women by parodying them, and to convince children this is ok to do? Why? If these men want to read stories to children, surely doing it dressed in everyday clothes with no make up would work just as well? What is the attraction of having a man in womanface reading to children?

I didn't say that. I said the picture of the man at the story time wasn't woman face. Look at it.

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:10

picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2022 22:00

Leaving the calendar and mermaids out of it, this man is a drag queen and sex offender. Drag queens are adult entertainment as in, sexualised entertainment. They are performance sex workers.

Why are we keen for sexualised entertainers to entertain our kids?

Do we call for Cardi B to read stories to our kids, given her enormous success as a black woman? Or playboy bunnies? Why would we?

I have no idea why people are keen, but I don't judge people for their work. They aren't inappropriately dressed in the library, and the stories are age appropriate children's books. Again, the paedophile did not read story time books.

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:10

So that man in the big wig, fake boobs and exaggerated make up with the jokey female name isn’t womanface? Are you saying that’s not a drag queen? In which case what was he doing reading to children as part of DQSH? Was he just some random they let in?

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:14

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:02

And please don't start denigrating sex workers on top.

I’m confused. How is suggesting if drag queens are ok to go into libraries and read to children, so are strippers denigrating anyone? I’m saying if one kind of adult entertainer is ok to entertain children, surely other types are?

You said:

where is the demand to allow postmen office workers and firemen to read stories to children whilst dressed in lingerie? If allowing adult entertainers to read to children is so good for them, why do we not have strippers and lap dancers going in to libraries for stripper story hour?

You appear to be now bringing sex workers into your general opinion about drag queens. That's okay your opinion however there would be nothing wrong in sex workers reading stories to children, do you imagine they don't have children of their own. And drag queens aren't sex workers.

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:15

picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2022 21:53

Ok, Yelena, but I'd imagine that was arranged by looking for teens to interview, then discussing with them where a photo would work. It may be at a hobby, or doing homework so incidentally at their desk in their room.

To call for children specifically to allow a photo and photographer in their room is poor practice. The child's bedroom is the point of that photo.

Okay find me the photo I'll tell if if it's inappropriate. Let's work on facts.

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:19

I’m querying @YelenaBlackWidow why we don’t have stripper story hour if we can have DQSH? Both are adult entertainers, so if one is suitable to read to children in their work attire, surely the other should be too? Why would drag queens in their costumes be ok but not strippers in theirs?

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:20

burneruser · 05/11/2022 22:05

I jumped to a conclusion, but the rest is true. It appears he's sexually assaulted drag "colleagues" in the area too.

DQ have zero educational value in libraries and schools.

Why do Men in tight Lycra want to be around kids? What does it bring to their lives?
Why does a childrens charity think pics of men in drag clothes on their website and promoting their causes is a good look?

Drag is exaggerated sexualised parody of women.

How does that help diversity? Why does mermaids want to promote that? They're communicating to the boys that they should be sexualised parodies of girls and that constant parody and judgement of females in all media is probably one of the reasons girls are wishing to become boys.

What's true? A paedophile has been convicted. Not a drag queen story time teller. No access to children. You've admitted to jumped to conclusions about Mermaids. Show me the link to the drag queens you say is on the mermaids website and I can make a judgement.

Unseelie · 05/11/2022 22:20

Thingybob · 05/11/2022 18:03

If I became aware of group of straight, white men that wanted to hang around libraries to read to small children it would raise the same alarm bells.

What @Thingybob said.

Especially if the men were obsessed with showing people their underwear.

picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2022 22:22

No, because it isn't that photo that's the problem. It's asking to take photos in a child's room. It's scouting for children and parents who're happy to let that happen.

I don't mean the advertiser or photographer are abusers, I mean that's a poor choice for safeguarding. Like, I dunno, offering kids sweets to come and talk to you.

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:23

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:19

I’m querying @YelenaBlackWidow why we don’t have stripper story hour if we can have DQSH? Both are adult entertainers, so if one is suitable to read to children in their work attire, surely the other should be too? Why would drag queens in their costumes be ok but not strippers in theirs?

As I said I have no idea why people are keen, and I wouldn't say a 'stripper' hour would be appropriate. And drag queens are not the same as sex workers, again. And he isn't in his work attire. More bullshit.

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:25

So he walks round On a daily basis with fake boobs, big wig and exaggerated make up? Really? I don’t think that’s true do you? So why would stripper story hour not be appropriate? They’re both adult entertainers? Do you think blackface is acceptable? If not why not when you think womanface is acceptable?

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:28

@Unseelie source for them being obsessed with showing their underwear? In a pair of trousers? And lots of companies speak at libraries. DBS checked and no red flags raised. So where is the evidence for any of this? This whole thread has been bullshit tarring if brushes and actual lies from start to finish, instead of talking about an ACTUAL paedophile.

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:38

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:25

So he walks round On a daily basis with fake boobs, big wig and exaggerated make up? Really? I don’t think that’s true do you? So why would stripper story hour not be appropriate? They’re both adult entertainers? Do you think blackface is acceptable? If not why not when you think womanface is acceptable?

Sigh. Okay, I'll humour you one last time. He has a day outfit he wears for the library. It's not the lingerie you accused him off, it's a perfectly normal rainbow trouser suit and wig, not even make-up. He has other outfits he wears for his club work in the evening. These are different and what you may refer to as women face. This is obvious. I don't agree with blackface and I don't even like drag queens, I'm pointing out lies and disinformation. 'stripper' story time isn't acceptable because it's a nasty old fashioned word for a dancer who works in the sex industry. It's not appropriate for a sex worker to work in a Library in their work capacity. Again, obvious. Will you go on the other misinformation and bullshit irrelevancies or do you actually have an opinion on the actual paedophile in the OP?

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:42

picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2022 22:22

No, because it isn't that photo that's the problem. It's asking to take photos in a child's room. It's scouting for children and parents who're happy to let that happen.

I don't mean the advertiser or photographer are abusers, I mean that's a poor choice for safeguarding. Like, I dunno, offering kids sweets to come and talk to you.

Well maybe, it looks completely innocent to me, as I say I see articles with photos like that when teenagers are telling their story. Presumably they word it like that so they don't get people applying who WOULDN'T be happy for their bedroom to be in the article, some people are private like that. It stops people wasting their time.

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:43

He’s literally got a face full of make up on?? Again, if all he wanted to do was read stories to children, why does he need the make up, crop top and wig? Why even mention he’s a drag queen? Why not just be a bloke who turns up to promote literacy to children?

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:48

Plus he is there in his work capacity. He is a drag queen. That’s his job. He’s going in as part of Drag Queen Story Hour. So if one type of adult entertainer can go in and read in their work capacity, why not another? Why could he not just go in as John, the bloke who’s going to read a story to some kids?

YelenaBlackWidow · 05/11/2022 22:52

Happylittlechicken · 05/11/2022 22:43

He’s literally got a face full of make up on?? Again, if all he wanted to do was read stories to children, why does he need the make up, crop top and wig? Why even mention he’s a drag queen? Why not just be a bloke who turns up to promote literacy to children?

Sigh. I answered you question on why drag queen story time. I've said I don't know and I'm not defending it either way. However I will defend lies: He's definitely not wearing a crop top. He's wearing normal make up, if a little heavy for day time use, not evening drag queen make-up. You've refused to denigrate the actual paedophile, just an innocent man running a company reading to children. Now I know you are being an absolute bullshitter and I won't be responding to you further.

LunaLights · 06/11/2022 00:36

Have a google of rainbow dildo butt monkey.
This is who is going into libraries to interact with young children.

YelenaBlackWidow · 06/11/2022 00:43

LunaLights · 06/11/2022 00:36

Have a google of rainbow dildo butt monkey.
This is who is going into libraries to interact with young children.

I must admit I was nervous putting that search term into google, however o was brave. Having found several articles and images, that's not the same person or his company. It's actually an actor wearing an extremely inappropriate costume booked from an Arts Centre. Safeguarding failure but what's that got to do with drag queens?

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 05:18

That was part of the DQSH scheme. That is why monkey man was booked. Because it’s seen as so progressive and edgy to have adult entertainers read to toddlers. There was another one who as part of his act at a family festival told the audience ‘we need to teach children to open their hearts, their minds and their legs’. This is not about promoting literacy, this is about blurring boundaries about what is acceptable around children. Now who would be invested in pushing adult entertainment at children and blurring boundaries….

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2022 08:11

Mermaids promoted the calendar on social media and their logo was on it. Enough of the wide eyed disingenuous posts.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3478720-Drag-queens-pose-in-bond-age-gear-for-calendar-in-aid-of-Mermaids

picklemewalnuts · 06/11/2022 08:38

There isn't only one Drag Queen doing drag queen story time.

There's the guy who taught the DC to twerk as part of his story- literally stood twerking.

The guy who lay on the floor as the DC crawled all over him.

The guy who wants to teach kids to 'open their legs'.

In the defence of one 'nice guy in a rainbow suit' you are supporting a whole outlook that promotes openness over safeguarding.

We are prioritising safeguarding over the feelings of the nice guy in the rainbow suit. Why isn't he promoting himself as a kids entertainer? Like a Mork and Mindy character? That would be fabulous and no one would complain. It's not about him.

And it's disingenuous to say we aren't complaining about the pedophile. Of course we are.