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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Republicans run ads on transgender children

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Girlsontour · 02/11/2022 06:05

Gender Ideology is becoming an issue close to the Midterm elections that Republicans are willing to run on, as the dangers to children of experimental treatments filters into the American mainstream.

www.politico.com/news/2022/11/01/ads-targeting-transgender-kids-swing-states-00064505

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ResisterRex · 06/11/2022 16:56

Thanks Moira, will try to watch the videos after bedtime!

I also saw this in the US Mail, which is quite long but interesting. The DM style is to sum everything up in bullets but even the bullet list is 8 long! They also have an article on Hollywood 'slebs deserting Biden. Or at least, keep a low profile this time round.

Although I don't think you can copy and paste their politics onto ours, it will be worth watching now it plays out from here.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11395851/midterms-election-2022-house-races.html

Voters head to polls on November 8 to decide which party controls Congress for the latter half of Biden's term
Multiple projections show the GOP winning in the House of Representatives, where Dems hold a slim majority
At least 218 House seats are needed for either Democrats or Republicans to hold the majority
Sunday's projections show a Republican-led sweep - even if Democrats win all 33 toss-up seats they will still fall short of the number of members needed for a majority
A slew of Donald Trump-backed candidates are running in solidly red districts across the country
New York's suburbs in Long Island and parts of Queens will see the first general race between two openly gay candidates in Republican George Santos and Democrat Robert Zimmerman
Republican JR Majewski had an edge over House Democrat Rep. Marcy Kaptur before revelations that he misrepresented his military service in the Afghanistan war became public
In California, GOP Rep. Mike Garcia appeared doomed until Democrats pulled money out of his LA County district in what appears to be a sign of low confidence

MangyInseam · 07/11/2022 01:37

MoirasSaggyBundles · 05/11/2022 23:28

What Hostin actually said was, "I read a poll yesterday that white republican suburban women are now going to vote republican." So not only a stupid comment (why wouldn't republican women vote republican), but also a racist one. Which interestingly enough, in a thread about the reliability of media, The Hill glosses over. I am sure former federal prosecutor, Hostin is well aware of the connotations of the use of "cockroaches" in places like Rwanda to other certain ethnic groups and stoke division.

A couple of days later, Whoopie Goldberg had a very angry go at Conservative commentator Dana Loesch for calling women who have abortions "skanks". Both her remark and Hostin's were misogynist, but the View did nothing about the latter's, which arguably was worse in the current climate of racial and social tensions a few days prior to a crucial election (which may well result in violent protest whichever way it goes). The View really needs to get its own house in order before lecturing anyone else.

It's stupid too, in that all kinds of people are now more likely to vote Republican, if the polling is accurate.

An interesting short article at Unherd:
unherd.com/thepost/the-democrats-deserve-to-lose-the-hispanic-vote/

Highlights - the Democrats are losing the Hispanic vote: it's gone from 21% voted for Trump in 2016 to 38% in 2020, and it looks like if there was a vote today it would be over 40%.

Similarly the black vote is moving, with 12% of blacks supporting Trump in 2020 (which was up from 2016,) there is now 21% in support of the Republicans.

The suggestion is that for many of these voters, the economy has been the number one issue.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 07/11/2022 09:02

I'm saying is that it is incredibly naïve to assume that the Republican politicians actually share those concerns on a meaningful level.

It is possible to genuinely share these concerns and have a political agenda. That's why anything to do with child protection is such a hot topic. People on all political sides and at all shades of centrism to extremism have children and want to protect them.

People feel satisfied when they can align their political agenda with their personal concerns. In reality there are far more parents than there are gender ideologists, and it's the political liberal/left who have committed to support gender ideology. So right now, large chunks of the liberal left can't share those concerns or if they try they get silenced and drummed out. Whereas the right can comfortably line things up.

This has been borne in on me very painfully even here in Scotland. I wrote to my local MSPs about a couple of concerns and so far the only respones I've had which have even acknowledged I might have any legitimate concerns have been from Conservatives. Not Labour, not SNP, not Green, no-one else.

knittingaddict · 07/11/2022 09:35

xalo · 02/11/2022 07:59

On mumsnet left wing women seem to be in the majority on this issue.

I've seen a few posts that make we doubt that.

For info I was centre right leaning and now consider myself more centre left.

I'm slightly twitchy about the Republicans taking this on board. I just hope it doesn't get caught up in the Qanon types and their Save The Children stuff. I can see the perils there.

knittingaddict · 07/11/2022 09:39

xalo · 02/11/2022 08:16

@Needmoresleep
No data obviously as that isn't available.
Just the regular appearance on this board of huge numbers of angry women who have left the Labour Party and are now politically homeless.

Hmm, I see plenty of women on here who wish they could vote for Labour because the Tories are so awful now. I don't think that means they were ever Labour voters. I'm one of those who feel politically hoomeless, but not because I've voted Labour in the past. I just wish I could now because a strong alternative party is sorely needed.

Pallisers · 07/11/2022 23:41

*De Santis sending migrants to sanctuary states, who then sent them straight back, was a lesson in the left's rank hypocrisy.&

Where did this happen? De Santis certainly shamelessly used vulnerable people to score a political point and appeal to his base but where is it reported the sanctuary states "sent them straight back". I have never seen this reported. When it happened here in MA on Martha's Vineyard (a really cheap political point there), locals rallied and the commonwealth took care of them. People in the states far from the border recognise this is an issue that disporportionately affects border states and understand that we all need to deal with it. Effective cross party immigration reform (as was poised to happen years ago) along with a recognition of why people are fleeing countries like Venezuala might help. That's not going to happen with the current Republican party.

I think the banning of abortion and the banning of gender affirmative treatment are on the same spectrum actually - unwarranted interference of the government in decicions that should be between a person (woman in the case of abortion and that person's doctor. I don't want Florida or Texas legislating on any medical treatment. But as long as the medical profession is letting this shit show go on for minors, it will happen. And maybe not using "gender affirming care" might help too - it sounds so innocuous when the reality is quite different.

Of course Republicans are running ads on trans care - it is red meat to their base and the democrats have handed it to them on a plate. But does anyone thinks a republican party in power will be pro-women? Seriously. the party that gave us the Dodds decision? And slavers after Trump?

It’s not like the people running the left really believe people change sex and 3 year olds know what’s best for their tiny selves in the short, mid & long term. They just thought “ohhh our side seems to like this shit, let’s centre it, save ourselves the internal blow back from going WTF ? It’ll keep our base happy by letting they feel all virtuous. Plus let’s use this “fighting fascism” narrative the TRAs and the SJWs have. That should energise the base++ enough to get out and actually vote”

I agree with this. Just as I think the opposite is true for the right wing. It is not like any of them care about any trans child. But it appeals to the base and the good/evil/end of days thing that so many right wing christians seem to believe (see De Santis's latest ad invoking god and suggesting he might be God's annointed one to fight the forces of evil- you can't make this shit up - and Trumps anger at it because HE is god's annointed one). They wouldn't give a fuck otherwise.

And someone said upthread not to worry about a federal ban on abortion. Sorry but I will. After all I was told that I didn't need to worry about Roe v Wade either. All the judges said it was established precedent when being confirmed. Turned out I did.

Abhannmor · 08/11/2022 22:08

What is this shit about 'extreme left'? Some kids stomping their feet and chanting about pronouns doesn't mean you have a serious left alternative.

The Democrats are a kick in the arse away from the Republicans on 99% of other issues. Which is why they are going to get thrashed. And serve them right.

They must escort Biden offstage and run someone half his age. Not Harris. Tulsi has gone looney tunes. AOC is Twaw. Bernie too old. Maybe Newsom. But whoever- they must ditch this twaw bollocks

CliantheLang · 08/11/2022 22:17

Abhannmor · 08/11/2022 22:08

What is this shit about 'extreme left'? Some kids stomping their feet and chanting about pronouns doesn't mean you have a serious left alternative.

The Democrats are a kick in the arse away from the Republicans on 99% of other issues. Which is why they are going to get thrashed. And serve them right.

They must escort Biden offstage and run someone half his age. Not Harris. Tulsi has gone looney tunes. AOC is Twaw. Bernie too old. Maybe Newsom. But whoever- they must ditch this twaw bollocks

Tulsi hasn't gone looney tunes. If you're talking about Ukraine, she just knows more than you do. A lot more, obviously.

GrinitchSpinach · 08/11/2022 22:18

Not Newsom, Abhannmor! He has supported and signed (with enthusiasm!) legislation to put male violent criminals in women's prisons; and to make CA a "sanctuary state" where minors can run away from their parents and get "gender affirming" sterilizing cross-sex hormones and surgeries on the state dime without their parents' assent.

I am not in CA, but I am a forlorn lifelong Democrat, and I know I'm not the only one. I have absolutely no idea what I'll do in 2024.

Abhannmor · 08/11/2022 23:13

Ugh...of course he is in California. I forgot . Perhaps an independent candidate who is not in thrall to the woke but is also not a raving fascist. But is such a creature to be found?

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