Gender stereotypes

[WandaWomblesaurus]

Along with the "is this model a woman or man?" And "Is this woman a woman if she has short hair" bathroom sketch, gender stereotypes work for no one.

To assume that GC people care about stereotypes is way off though and it's being used by TRAs as a gotcha.

Interesting how this stuff comes round full circle.

Great post!

Yes - that's a good description of being 'gender (stereotype) critical'.

Well now you know. I don't expect an apology for being accused of being rude and sexist (paraphrased).

Really? So they are only disapproved of them for their actions?

You're very aerated about people being rude to you @JamesBuckyBarnes

in your first two posts you accused posters here of 'clutching their pearls' and frothing at the mouth

are you always rude and then expect people to tolerate your behaviour?

how's that working out for you lovie?

Shame you are get tarred with the same brush then. if you all conducted yourself like that poster instead of attempting to belittle, be rude, and accuse, maybe people would think better of Y'all.

Do we need to shuffle up to allow space for James to sit on the transphobes bench?

(For any shadow of doubt agreeing that any space should be protected, i.e women (sex class) only makes one awfully transphobic * )

• Apparently

yep, that's what most regular posters here think

(although appreciation threads for men on the feminism board do grind my gears and I generally refuse to engage with them on principle)

but since we're all in agreement here, what was that insult about frothing at the mouth you wanted to throw about?

Y'all

I shall conduct myself better in future to avoid the wrath of the capitalised Y'all

Nope. I've seen posters on Mumsnet do those things, in contrast people were rude in a message to me, direct to me personally. How's that working out? Well it's not changing my mind about how Y'all behave to people who have different opinions.

Really? So they are only disapproved of them for their actions?

There's hundreds of posters, but afaik those who are 'gender critical' try to assess people according to their behaviour, whether it impacts on woman's rights, child safeguarding etc, and not on their appearance.
I don't doubt you can find examples to the contrary - it's not an echo chamber. But this thread is specifically about gender stereotypes and being gender critical.

I think your caps lock maybe selectively stuck

Um that doesn't make one transphobic, sex is a protected characteristic and you can provide a single sex service if it's a proportionate means of providing a legitimate aim. But thanks for implying I'm a transphobe.

Well, apologies if 'Why all the pearl clutching on here when men 'wear what they want'?' wasn't intended as a sexist jibe but that's honestly how it came across. Perhaps you can accept that it wasn't the most mature opening gambit if you were after serious debate?

see, it's behaving itself now

even your 'Y's look OK

did you clean a crumb out from under your shift key?

Well according to many, it does.

I don't make the rules, but for those that do saying that is enough to get you ex-communicated.

The rules are complicated, and will likely be different tomorrow.

Oh and just to be damn, shiny clear, I do not think it makes one a transphobe. I, however, don't make the rules

If people don't want to be seen as pearl clutching, maybe one shouldn't do it. And mature debate, have you seen @BernardBlacksMolluscs I'm embarrassed for them. This is the kind of thing people come up against whenever they have a different opinion. Then they shrug their shoulders and leave you to it, I've seen it time and time again. That's why people think it's an echo chamber. If people are willing to be reasonable fair enough I'll engage, but maybe some of the posters on here could be a little less stroppy.

Thanks I appreciate that, I don't think there are any 'rules' but I agree with you, simply talking about protected spaces doesn't make one a transphobe.

I maybe a mum, but I'm not your mum my little chickadee

I'm under no compunction to be nice to you

if you want people to engage with you in good faith, maybe have a little think about first impressions?

now (in the words of Prince) run and tell your mamma 'bout that