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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mango

34 replies

PlatypusRock · 25/10/2022 10:33

Was just looking for a blouse on Mango, are mango now a place i don't want to shop?

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FreshMojo · 25/10/2022 14:23

Some cockwomble has blocked the (dropped kerb!) entrance with a lorry and then pissed off, Head Farmer is rightfully furious and is currently trying to get the council to sort it out, but you know how these things go….
…. Heard this crazy rumour that he is working on “something special” to get rid of this damn lorry himself!
I need mangos and other fruity goodness….. for my healthy smoothies!

ScreamingMeMe · 25/10/2022 15:13

What?

ScreamingMeMe · 25/10/2022 15:19

I haven't heard anything bad about Mango, OP.

Stellaris22 · 25/10/2022 15:21

Is this another highly offensive 'is the model a woman or a man' issue?

ScreamingMeMe · 25/10/2022 15:25

What's with the weird replies to this?

Stellaris22 · 25/10/2022 15:28

There was a thread a while ago where the OP deemed it necessary to insist a retailer was using a male model to advertise a bikini, with a zoomed in photo.

Hoping this isn't a similar thing.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/10/2022 15:33

'Mango' is not a synonym for 'gender affirming surgery' and/or 'wrong sex hormones'. OP they're probably no better or worse than the rest of the high street.

Ohhhhladz · 25/10/2022 15:34

Wrong board? Style and Beauty is over here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/style_and_beauty; you can report your post to ask MNHQ to move it, but you're going to need to give more info - do you not like the style? Fabric? Quality? Price? Shopping experience?

If you post a pic of the specific blouse and what's not quite right about it for your needs, regulars over there are really good at finding possible alternatives.

WandaWomblesaurus · 25/10/2022 15:47

mermaidsuk.org.uk/young-people/mango/

I'm actually going to deliberately derail this suspicious thread with a mango that we should be worried about.

Mermaids young activist group - Mango is accredited by the British Youth Council. It stands for "Mermaids Activists Network Group Online."

It advertises to 16-19 year olds.
They say they want "full trans liberation."

ScreamingMeMe · 25/10/2022 15:49

If OP has deliberately posted here on purpose, presumably she wants to check that Mango is still a woman-friendly company, i.e. it doesn't have mixed-sexed changing rooms and hasn't posted something stupid and insulting to women on social media.

Here is the latest boycott thread, OP. I don't think Mango are on it.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4504911-is-there-a-list-of-companies-we-can-boycott-over-their-twaw-stance

ScreamingMeMe · 25/10/2022 15:51

WandaWomblesaurus · 25/10/2022 15:47

mermaidsuk.org.uk/young-people/mango/

I'm actually going to deliberately derail this suspicious thread with a mango that we should be worried about.

Mermaids young activist group - Mango is accredited by the British Youth Council. It stands for "Mermaids Activists Network Group Online."

It advertises to 16-19 year olds.
They say they want "full trans liberation."

I keep hearing that term, and I still don't know what it means. Sounds all cool and revolutionary though I suppose.

Grooming the next league of antifa?

ScreamingMeMe · 25/10/2022 15:53

Stellaris22 · 25/10/2022 15:28

There was a thread a while ago where the OP deemed it necessary to insist a retailer was using a male model to advertise a bikini, with a zoomed in photo.

Hoping this isn't a similar thing.

Eeeek.

PlatypusRock · 25/10/2022 16:26

@ScreamingMeMe Thanks - yes I posted here on purpose and I'll check that thread out.

Worried it's just a masculine looking model - anyone ok if I DM it to them? Sorry I also have one eye functioning right now!

Had no idea about the other meaning of Mango.

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Stellaris22 · 25/10/2022 16:32

Ah. I see it's another 'let's decide if a model is a man or a woman' issue aka lets judge models features and looks to see if they are feminine enough.

PlatypusRock · 25/10/2022 16:35

Well it's not as i have not posted the link or photo, have i?

But no i don't want to support a business if they use men to model women's clothing.

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Stellaris22 · 25/10/2022 16:38

What makes you think the model is a man? Does the company explicitly say they are using men to model women's clothing or is it simply you think a model has masculine features?

SirenSays · 25/10/2022 16:45

The gender guessing on here just perpetuates the idea that unless you're stereotypically feminine looking, you aren't female. Women don't need that kind of pressure.

LosingTheWill2022 · 25/10/2022 16:46

i don't want to support a business if they use men to model women's clothing.
Could you explain why not @PlatypusRock ?

I'm all in favour of men and women wearing whatever clothes they like. I can see there might be manufacturing/fitting challenges in making clothes wholly universal but I have no principled objection to men in skirts or dresses anymore than than women in trousers or shorts. The sooner we stop fixating on social and cultural norms for either sex the better in my view.

WandaWomblesaurus · 25/10/2022 17:12

SirenSays · 25/10/2022 16:45

The gender guessing on here just perpetuates the idea that unless you're stereotypically feminine looking, you aren't female. Women don't need that kind of pressure.

Exactly.
Also makes us Twitter Fodder.

LosingTheWill2022 · 25/10/2022 17:31

SirenSays · 25/10/2022 16:45

The gender guessing on here just perpetuates the idea that unless you're stereotypically feminine looking, you aren't female. Women don't need that kind of pressure.

Agreed

GrumpyPanda · 25/10/2022 17:34

SirenSays · 25/10/2022 16:45

The gender guessing on here just perpetuates the idea that unless you're stereotypically feminine looking, you aren't female. Women don't need that kind of pressure.

You're making it sound like that type of fashion is an exception, when in fact runway fashion, and certainly most haute couture, is basically designed to accommodate the body shape of teenage boys (and hence actual males are an obvious if somewhat edgy choice to model them.) Methinks you're getting the feminist issues involved in this the wrong way around. Those of us cursed with hips and boobs (and maybe the occasional heavier thigh area) are so far removed from imposing our stereotypical femininity on everybody else. Just finding some actual fucking clothes to wear would be quite enough, thanks very much. (Bonus points if they also happen to have pockets.)

ScrollingLeaves · 25/10/2022 22:58

GrumpyPanda · Today 17:34
I agree that in some fashion the ideal model is not a woman with hips and bust but a young man- or at the very least, the ideal is a cross over between the two. So a male model may as well be used for certain fashions.

On another thread someone suggested that it might be a good idea just to let males do the modelling of women’s clothes. It is easier for young men to stay thin, and they are more likely to be tall. It would mean less anorexia for female models.

High fashion has lead to way for androgyny.

The 1920s thin, bustles flappers were thought to be a replacement for the list young men of the trenches. I wonder what this fashion to be trans gender means in our society.

PlatypusRock · 26/10/2022 06:05

The reason I don’t like it (biggest tom
boy ever) is because yet again a man is taking over a space for women.

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PlatypusRock · 26/10/2022 06:07

all the clothes I’ve seen under “men” are guess what - modelled by men.

no women modelling them.

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Asdavaluesausage · 26/10/2022 06:48

LosingTheWill2022 · 25/10/2022 16:46

i don't want to support a business if they use men to model women's clothing.
Could you explain why not @PlatypusRock ?

I'm all in favour of men and women wearing whatever clothes they like. I can see there might be manufacturing/fitting challenges in making clothes wholly universal but I have no principled objection to men in skirts or dresses anymore than than women in trousers or shorts. The sooner we stop fixating on social and cultural norms for either sex the better in my view.

Exactly. Normalise men wearing skirts, dresses, make up etc. a lot of the gender ideology relies on reinforcing stereotypes of which sex is allowed to wear and do what. If we get rid of those stereotypes, then we can also get rid of gender, we then base spaces on services on sex when needed allowing the maintenance of single sex spaces and encouraging peoples free expression