Please update your email signature to include your pronouns

[Rosecottage888]

The email states (at the bottom) that this is optional.

I knew it was coming, saw other threads from people who's organisations asked the same. I won't do it, just wanted a moan here.

@FlirtsWithRhinos 😂

How would you tell their pronoun. complies with their sex just from their email address or first name? My name can be used by either sex. How can you tell?

Damn, wrong thread!

Still, men can never be women; men can never be women; women and children still need safeguarding from men, no matter how men may "identify".

Do you feel worried that you'll be singled out if you don't? My experience is some people do, some people don't, and it doesn't really bother anyone either way

@SeemsABitHarsh a little yes, and I hope you're right. I also don't want to see a flurry of new emails stating their pronouns when they don't need to, just to keep up with the trend.

If people did start doing it, it would be very interesting to see how many manly males at the very top add them (I'm discounting heads of diversity and hr ). I bet most dont.

I always thought it was good that my work colleagues from across the world were given my neutral name, no more detail, and were therefore unable to discriminate against me as a woman on my name.

If they would now force me to put it into email sig, that I'm a woman (but non-penis woman, type!!), "she/her" - ??!!!

What, then?!

Wan/Kers?

It's so sad that you even need to think like this!

I'll be watching out for this for sure.

It is sad, yes. But that is what women have to put up with. And what we try to fight against. And part of safeguarding children too. Because if we can't safeguard women, then our children are in grave danger,

Interesting, I feel similar on marital status - when some random asks for my title and they invariably say 'are you Mrs or Miss?'. Really, what business is it if theirs if I'm married or not, and why are they assuming I'm not Dr, Prof, or even just Ms. it's just annoying

Do it!

I don't think it really matters if your colleagues do or don't, like you say it's a trend and trends come and go. I don't judge anyone that has one for their own reasons, and I wouldn't expect anyone to judge me

How does one fail the test?

I do judge the [female person]

"female name,
she/her".

She is currently a handmaiden, playing by men's rules.

The men who do

"male name,
he/him"
He's just emphasising his maleness.

@SeemsABitHarsh I have to ask this at work, so I ask for title rather than miss/Mrs etc
You can pick what you want from Dr to Lady to Princess but it won't let me process any further without a title annoyingly! But if it's in the list of titles we have, you can pick whatever you want

So, looks like, these days, women means men too?

Needless, virtue signalling bullcrap. It's everywhere. For example today I completed a Transport for London consultation on local cycle lanes. It needed me to register and within that:

"We would like to ask you eight optional questions. We ask these questions to help us assess whether:
• our Have your say activity reaches all sections of the community
• to understand possible differences in views between sections of the community (for example to consider if the level of support for a scheme varies between age groups) and
• to improve the effectiveness of the way we communicate with all our customers"

It asked for gender, ethnic group, religious beliefs and sexual orientation. I don't see how knowing if I'm a Bhuddist or a Martha wanting to be Arthur would be useful alongside whether or not I'm happy with the traffic a cycle lane causes or improve the effectiveness of how it communicates with me.

Men can do their own safety survey.

Are women, born women obviously, safe on these local cycle lanes?

Wow, I've just gone to write adult female or female on my Instagram - it's not fucking recognised??!!

If I get asked to do this, I'm going to put I/Me/You/It. If they queried it, I would just say "I don't even know what a pronoun is so I just Googled it and that's what Google says".

I just don't get this at all. Just be who you want to be. I'm just not interested in signing up to defining myself by pronouns and the big thing it's becoming.

It's all about authoritarian men, and their female handmaidens, telling women what they must do and think. Again. And again and again.

This ordinary woman tells them all, all the male and female misogynists, to fuck off.

I'm a woman.
Men and handmaidens can fuck right off from telling me what I can think and do.

"As many people might be early on in their gender journey, it's problematic for you to ask them to 'out' themselves before they are ready and they might feel singled out and victimised." Outwoke them until they aren't ure what to even think. Also my name is unisex and my excuse has always been that people respect me more in emails when the assume I'm male so until women are treated equally at work I won't be disclosung what sex I am. No one has ever asked though.

this/that