Graham Norton has terminated his Twitter account after attacking JK Rowling

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Well that's one less beardy man on there defending rape and death threats.

A trustee or a board member should have safeguarding knowledge, no?

So he's chosen to step away from Twitter, rather than Twitter deprive him of his account as a platform like some others.

So not cancelled at all, and to use his own words he would no doubt "feel it absurd were he to complain about being “canceled” as he is still more than able to talk about cancellation" should he want to on his national Radio programme or prime time BBC chat show.

And as he believes ""cancel culture" often is just consequences for actions"", surely he indeed "can have nothing to say on this topic now".

Silence Graham, can be golden.

I don’t see Emma Watson and the rest of the ‘be kind’ brigade standing up for him being bullied off the platform. Just shows you how spineless they are. Looks like JK and her lot won this round.

I think his stepping away from Twitter is more to do with him having been recently exposed for dressing up in a naked fat suit to take the piss out of Jade Goody, complete with toothpaste on his mouth to resemble semen. He probably hoped that people would forget all about that appalling display of misogyny.

That really hasn't aged well and nor has the fact that he gave a large sum of money to a vulnerable teenage girl so she could have a double mastectomy.

Why do you say trans people can't be women?

A PP said sarcastically every word JK says is amplified.

Yes, it is and THANK GOD for it because otherwise women's views would not have heard the same chance of being heard. especially when allies like Sturgeon falls over herself to allow men to break into women's spaces.

Keep speaking Joanne. Many of us feel the same but don't have a voice or don't dare raise it when we see what happens to women who speak out but who are not as powerful as you-they lose their jobs.,

Where would we be without JK raising her very powerful voice? In a bloody worse place.

He, a celeb, was asked about trans issues.
He said, don't talk to celebs, talk to trans people.

The only person making it about JK Rowling is JK Rowling.

Why do you say trans people can't be women?

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I include all biological women in my comment.

About Graham Norton. I gather you believe that this tweet was about Graham Norton. You posted that back on Page 4 with 'This is what she actually said.'

Then you have said: And JKR certainly seems to believe that he supports the rape and murder of women and wants other people to believe it, she tweeted it.

and

So slightly less bad, but still very bad. Point stands, no one should be accusing anyone of something they didn't say, no matter who it is and that includes JKR, she doesn't get a pass just because she's JKR.

and

My opinion stands that JKR is wrong for posting what she did on Twitter and that she is doing to Norton what she says is done to her.

I am asking if there are more tweets that she has posted or is this all about that same tweet you have linked up.

Which by the way seems rather pertinent to point out that she doesn't mention Norton, and you have then drawn the conclusion that she has while denying that Graham Norton was making points relevant to her when directly asked questions starting with mentions of J K Rowling.

So.... haven't you just done something you have accused J K Rowling of?

Thats what i thought

there was a screenshot upthread saying that wasn’t there?

Oh FOR FUCK'S SAKE. A man can't be a fish, a horse, a fern or a woman. he can pretend to be.

The only person making it about JK Rowling is JK Rowling

No. He commented on her 'problematic' views in the first place.

The biggest issue with all of this is that basic comprehension has gone to shit.

Oh my.... that is rather hard to come back from.

The thing is, I don't believe there is this sinister gestalt group called "TRAs" who are the bad guys and all work as one. That has obvious straw man vibes. I think all it shows is you can always find some awful people in every group. Some trans people receive death and rape threats too, just for being trans, I rarely if ever see that acknowledged or condemned on here. Norton pointing out that the media tends to amplify celebrity voices when celebrities aren't experts is perfectly correct and it's totally disingenuous and a little childish of JKR to respond with "oh so you support death threats do you". Obviously he doesn't, and nothing he said implies he does. Death threats aren't acceptable but receiving them doesn't make you right or more knowledgeable by default. Nor does it implicate everyone who disagrees with you. JKR is doing this whole "you either wholeheartedly agree with me or you endorse death threats" thing which is obviously hyperbolic rubbish, with no nuance, and she's done herself no favours by making that reach

oh dear.

Mariella, the interviewer, asked Graham Norton two questions that specifically mentioned J K Rowling.

I think you might be mistaken here.

She said a "spate" of men so that sounds like she's referring to more than one incidence.
She's just a children's author? I must have imagined the hours of my life I've spent reading Strike novels then!

JKR didn't drag Graham anywhere. He gave an interview to The Times to plug his new book and then answered their questions about JKR. He didn't have to respond. But he did. He said JKR had 'problematic views'; that he wouldn't interview her on air about them, and even though he hasn't talked to her about transgender issues, he 'imagines' they would disagree.

It encouraged a flurry of Tweets from the usual suspects (eg Billy Bragg) telling women that basically women are the only ones not allowed to talk about womanhood. And pretending that the trans debates on Twitter are characterised by 'poor trans teens and their parents' versus JKR. When actually the majority of people discussing trans issues on JKR's account are violent men making death and rape threats.

Still waiting for either Graham or Billy to condemn the violent threats or, indeed, the DV that JKR mentioned in her essay on single sex spaces. I have a feeling I'll have a long wait.

As for leaving Twitter, it's all performative. It's also no bloody coincidence that they're working hard to create a nasty TERFS story just when social media is discussing Mermaids' lack of safeguarding and their trustee's pro-paedophilia stance, and when the Home Secretary is being clear the police should stop acting like certain TRA's personal stasi.

Here's hoping he's started an exodus. All the men who think 'other men' are the experts on women and who have no sympathy or compassion for women receiving death and rape threats, can flounce.

I very much doubt Norton thinks that death threats are a reasonable response to having an opinion.

Death threats are - obviously - horrendous, people should be prosecuted for them, and they aren't okay. But they're not 'being cancelled', are they? They're crimes, and I find it very strange you make the leap to assuming he's justifying people committing crimes rather than "A famous person is complaining they feel unable to speak their mind/'cancelled' because people have an opinion on their opinion and that's ridiculous because they are still being given a huge platform and professional opportunities to talk about said opinion".

he what, now?

Not necessarily, if they're not in a job role that requires direct it. I work for a charity, our trustees aren't experts and are in a hands-off role so they don't need to be, that's what they employ us for.

Ah, right, thanks for explaining. I'm referring only to the tweets JKR has tweeted regarding this topic.

She doesn't mention Norton by name but replies to a video of his interview, so yes, I feel it's a pretty safe assumption she's talking about GN and BB rather than Santa Claus or Gandalf. That's not the same as someone saying "I like cats" and assuming that means "I wish all dogs would die".

I also don't think I said that GN wasn't talking about her, he was asked a direct question about her. I said that JKR has entirely changed his words and somehow ended up with "He supports the threats of rape and murder towards women".

It's hypocritical of her at the very least.

I very much doubt Norton thinks that death threats are a reasonable response to having an opinion

How else would you explain his characterisation of the response to JKR as simply 'accountability' then?

@Helleofabore Did he mention JK Rowling? No. He did not. When you actually listen to the interview he was clearly trying to deflect away from discussing it.

Just a point of order here. There was an interview in the Times and then the interview with frostrup at the Cheltenham lit festival.

This is the interview in the Sunday Times in which he described jkr's views as problematic and said she enjoyed the shit she gets on Twitter which was published 18th September.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/820fb7a6-3384-11ed-906e-b1c0a42b1514?shareToken=5b56ce3e7ea6da6f131048862390b082

The frostrup interview was last week - 11th October.

Incidentally, frostrup has tweeted the article Brendan O'Neill wrote criticising Norton for dodging the question.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-won-t-graham-norton-speak-up-for-jk-rowling-

Norton thought dressing up as Jade Goody was hilarious!