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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

David Sedaris needs a rest. So he is straight, but with a boyfriend.

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badbaduncle · 17/10/2022 09:32

www.cbsnews.com/news/david-sedaris-on-coming-out-all-over-again/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab8c&linkId=185816832

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nauticant · 17/10/2022 09:37

I'm not surprised by this. In one of his Radio 4 shows last year he was notably exasperated by identity politics:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4220574-David-Sedaris-Radio-4-15-April

However, the obligatory disclaimer: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3397025-david-sedaris-signing-whore-in-mn-poster-s-book

FlibbertyGiblets · 17/10/2022 09:37

Good for him. He is as straight as they come, but with a boyfriend.

Somanysocks · 17/10/2022 09:40

He's making a point that's all. Words are becoming meaningless.

PortiasBiscuit · 17/10/2022 09:42

I’m a tall woman ..?

Sausagenbacon · 17/10/2022 10:35

Good for him, but also a good way for him to get publicity, as he has recently bought out a new book.
I went to see him in Cardiff, and, frankly he wasn't much cop. Though it wasn't helped by him being in a massive half-empty Hall.
But when he's good, he's really good, though i find he has a high proportion of misfires.
In his latest, he writes perceptively about the death of a difficult parent. Which struck home with me.

WinterTrees · 17/10/2022 10:37

He does say something along the lines of 'I identify as heterosexual, because like the words 'jewish' or 'female' it rarely, if ever, changes'

I'm not sure he's been listening that carefully if he thinks the word female is safe and constant.

beastlyslumber · 17/10/2022 11:04

Good for him. If a straight woman can be deemed 'queer' then a gay man can be straight. Good way of making a point. Wonder if he'll incur any wrath.

He could have come out as non binary, so this is good news as far as I'm concerned. He is such a wonderful, funny, clever writer.

beastlyslumber · 17/10/2022 11:06

He does say something along the lines of 'I identify as heterosexual, because like the words 'jewish' or 'female' it rarely, if ever, changes'

I'm not sure he's been listening that carefully if he thinks the word female is safe and constant.

I thought he was being ironic.

Sausagenbacon · 17/10/2022 11:08

So did I.

PrioritiseCalm · 17/10/2022 11:12

Ha!

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 17/10/2022 11:17

beastlyslumber · 17/10/2022 11:06

He does say something along the lines of 'I identify as heterosexual, because like the words 'jewish' or 'female' it rarely, if ever, changes'

I'm not sure he's been listening that carefully if he thinks the word female is safe and constant.

I thought he was being ironic.

I think he's one of those people who thinks the word "woman" has been flexed to include transwomen, but the word "female" has been left alone as the accurate, scientific descriptor.

Spoiler alert! It has not.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/10/2022 11:32

He’s whip smart

i’d err on the side of him being ironic rather than not getting anything about modern culture

beastlyslumber · 17/10/2022 11:47

I think the clue is the word 'Jewish'. Has Jewishness always remained a stable identity and description, not subject to the vicissitudes of political and cultural influences? I think not.

I think it's an ironic quip. He's very clever, eh?

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 17/10/2022 11:48

Well, let's hope so!

WinterTrees · 17/10/2022 12:31

Ah - thank you!

I saw it on twitter first thing (pre-coffee) and was taken in by the deadpan delivery. Apologies Mr Sedaris.

MoltenLasagne · 17/10/2022 14:09

beastlyslumber · 17/10/2022 11:06

He does say something along the lines of 'I identify as heterosexual, because like the words 'jewish' or 'female' it rarely, if ever, changes'

I'm not sure he's been listening that carefully if he thinks the word female is safe and constant.

I thought he was being ironic.

I agree, I was smiling but laughed out loud at that part.

ThatCheeseIsMine · 17/10/2022 16:45

Yes I think he is saying he's fed up of straight people identifying as queer (and possibly by extension all the other people identifying as things they're not) because words have meanings, something he cares about as a writer, and because he's gay, which also matters to him.

I think there may also be an element of being arch and intellectual about it in a way that ideologists/the TQ lobby won't find it easy to pick apart, so they won't be quite sure what side he's on. He's not saying "yay go rowling!" is he. (Not that he should - but my point is if he wanted to lay his cards on the table unambiguously he could do that easily enough.)

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