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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ulta Beauty / Dylan Mulvaney "chatting all things girlhood"

55 replies

thedoorsandwindows · 16/10/2022 14:50

Ulta Beauty getting properly slammed on Twitter, lots of angry comments about womanface. twitter.com/ultabeauty/status/1580604338761650176

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thedoorsandwindows · 16/10/2022 14:52

Also Ulta frantically hiding comments - for those who don't know (I didn't), you can see them if you click this little icon bottom right

Ulta Beauty / Dylan Mulvaney "chatting all things girlhood"
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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/10/2022 14:56

They say they want to be inclusive to everyone. So they’ll be fine with the millions of blokes who want to buy make up , instead of any woman who finds that all a bit creepy.

way to go , boys.

KatMcBundleFace · 16/10/2022 15:07

Excellent response from good old Dicky here:

Ulta Beauty / Dylan Mulvaney "chatting all things girlhood"
Shakenotslurred · 16/10/2022 15:10

So two blokes discussing ‘everything girly’? Awesome.

FirstandLastBorn · 16/10/2022 15:14

He's like a unwanted rash that won't go away. And he's bloody everywhere. What are these people on?

FirstandLastBorn · 16/10/2022 15:14

That was me being polite.

RadFemApparently · 16/10/2022 17:30

I've seen the term 'Biotrans' on a few of the Twitter bios the on that thread and I haven't come across it before.

I've googled it but couldn't see it. Does anyone know what it means?

ZeldaFighter · 16/10/2022 17:31

Dylan makes me froth at the mouth - I will not stoop to supposedly misgendering this person but who does Dylan get away with such appalling sexism!?!?

Also, what woman is going to buy beauty products from a person with a beard but no PhD in Chemistry?

Truthlikeness · 16/10/2022 18:02

I don't think I've seen such a robust response on Twitter and those hidden replies are holding nothing back. This interview is doing nothing to promote trans rights, that's for sure.

As others have pointed out - make-up for males is a legitimate market they could easily target. Being grossly offensive to women makes less commercial sense.

pink85 · 16/10/2022 18:12

Hoo boy Dylan makes me rage (I don't actively want to 'misgender' ashjk) but they are a male have taken a place at a womans summit, do all those gross stereotypes and like I don't care if a guy wants to wear a dress or make up in fact I'd cheer them on! But aligning with us, taking our places pretending to be the same. No. I'm sick of it. Dylan's latest post was him trying to get into a place in Disneyworld that he apparently didn't realise was only for up to 12 year olds and a woman in the doorway as he filmed this tiktok looked like she was thinking wtf are you doing here. I don't want nor need Dylan to tell me about make up thanks. I sometimes don't even wear it which must be shocking to him lol

ApocalipstickNow · 16/10/2022 18:20

This would be fine if Dylan was talking about “all things trans” and yes, flogging make up to anyone who wants to buy it is ok in my book- but girlhood? Why? (I know why, but from a marketing pov I mean).

SaintDominic · 16/10/2022 18:26

So girls talking about girlhood is passé these days?

TidyDancer · 16/10/2022 18:27

Dylan infuriates me to such a degree I low-key suspect he's having us all on and it's part of a long term exposé of how ridiculous this ideology has got, a bit like the fake tits on the Canadian teacher story.

Ulta are not helping themselves by hiding the replies, it's just focusing everyone on how many there are that they don't like.

bellinisurge · 16/10/2022 18:34

@TidyDancer , I feel the same. Otherwise, he's just a fucking grifter/wanker

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/10/2022 18:38

SaintDominic · 16/10/2022 18:26

So girls talking about girlhood is passé these days?

In what way a 'girl'?

user1471464218 · 16/10/2022 18:39

Dylan Mulvaney used to appear regularly on my tiktok. I originally thought the whole thing was some sort of set-up or exposé....then thought maybe this is real....now I don't know! But Dylan does get attention!

334bu · 16/10/2022 18:42

So girls talking about girlhood is passé these days?

😂😂

TheClogLady · 16/10/2022 19:02

The other bloke in the video seems a perfect publicity choice for the men-who-wear-make-up market. I had a quick look at his Twitter and he’s both model good looking AND actually knows about hair styling and make up application (although I did spot a bit of a weird post, my paraphrase, ‘what would you do if I taught your Spanish class?’ but no reason to assume it’s sinister, he’s not actually addressing children, he might’ve been thinking college classes, and he’s Puerto Rican so he was probably thinking more about the ‘Spanish’ bit than anything to do with schools. Hopefully he’ll delete it now people have pointed out how it comes across to others outside of his fashion runway, celeb lifestyles, social group).

But Dylan is just such an odd choice, except, as one of the Twitter comments points out, for the fact that Dylan has generated a massive viral audience that the brand can now try and flog their wares to.

Choosing Dylan has got nothing to do with inclusion or diversity and everything to do with capitalising on the algorithms that made Dylan famous.

Ulta are using the language of social justice but it’s entirely hollow. Ulta is a corporate identity wearing a clumsily designed cloak in an attempt disguise itself as member of a vulnerable and marginalised group.

Oh! Hold on… now I’ve written that out, maybe Dylan is the perfect choice for Ulta after all?

TheClogLady · 16/10/2022 19:04

Look at that ratio!

Ulta Beauty / Dylan Mulvaney "chatting all things girlhood"
pink85 · 16/10/2022 19:15

Shame they're cowards and have turned off comments on the entire vid on their YouTube channel I'm only 6 minutes in and am already raging because Dylan is explaining away why he calls himself a girl (and knows that women have been offended by it) by saying that we say we're going out with our 'girlfriends' and he also mentions The Spice Girls and basically any woman calling this girlhood thing out is TP 😑

TheClogLady · 16/10/2022 19:31

I’ve only watched the Twitter clip. Does the host ever push back on any of it?

I made this collage of his facial expressions:

Ulta Beauty / Dylan Mulvaney "chatting all things girlhood"
TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 16/10/2022 20:10

Shallow observation but it’s amazing how much more beautiful the feminine gay man who knows he’s a man is, than the one who‘s playing at being a woman. And it’s not nature’s fault! Dylan was also attractive looking before he started doing this bit.

Rightsraptor · 16/10/2022 20:17

I don't know who this bunch are but am I the only one hearing 'Ultra Beauty' as a robotic, disembodied elevator voice?

FirstandLastBorn · 16/10/2022 20:41

Did he start out as a troll but got caught in the hype? Not likely. He's bloody milking it for all his worth.

He says he can be a girl if Beyoncé can be a girl. Maybe he's a fan of Beyoncé, but seems like he is using the old racist trope again.

Shakenotslurred · 16/10/2022 21:12

Why would Beyoncé, a female, being a girl, mean this male can be a ‘girl’?