I think that misses half the story OP. The discussions here and other platforms are at two levels.
Yes, there are transitioned males. Historically it has been this segment that has leveraged themselves into positions of influence, particularly over policy. Because, they are male. They often have been educated and employed as male and have had male socialisation from birth.
They still show as a group, everyday, that they have male tendencies in many ways. From the way they merely discuss and interact with females to the very real male safeguarding risk they present.
They are male yet many of them demand access female single sex spaces in various degrees of completeness. Some males just want to access toilets, sometimes they demand to be in every single sex space and role.
This group also have been part of the group involved in the push into education and sex education. Think of Alex Drummond. Think of the articles written in teen magazines aimed at teenaged girls on how ‘lesbians’ can have sex with these males calling themselves lesbians. Who does that benefit exactly?
The conversation around that group of people who have trans identities (transitioned males) is, of course, around raising the boundaries for woman and children back to even just adequate safeguarding levels.
And don’t forget the sports issue. We are all waiting for next month’s World Athletics meeting and what that will bring.
Then there is the discussion about our children, about the young people who are transitioning. That group, proven from the stats around the world, are female in the majority.
It is the female young transitioners that dominate the discussion. Discussions about the medical needs they have, and yet that again have been dominated by the needs and demands of MALES!
There have been ‘some’ transitioned males and some posters very invested for other reasons who posted on MNFWR regularly in the past, who would tell us all about why affirming treatment was absolutely imperative for ‘young people.’ Those posters would ignore the significantly greater health risks for the actual majority of that current cohort - FEMALES! Those posts were always centred on male needs. The need for ‘passing’. There have even been male posters telling us that it is quite ok though that those young males will never experience orgasm. Because ‘asexual’ people exist, don’t you know!
These type of posts have dropped away significantly after Keira Bell’s brave case. And the dramatic and predicted rise in detransitioner voices. And also when clinicians, a couple who are transitioned males themselves, have admitted the realities of these medical treatments for children and young people.
At the time though, those poster’s only concern was that all young people get access to drugs so that males could ‘pass’ better. But they either had no idea and not even a skerrick of interest in how this impacted females or ignored it. Even when it was explained patiently, they kept repeating about ‘passing’ needs for males. Those conversations were very hard to accept and mentioning that was a form of sexist discrimination in posts meant those posts were quickly reported and deleted.
This though was not unusual, it was the same whatever social media platform you were on. Those males from the first group mentioned, have had huge influence and the young people it is impacting the most on are proven to be females. The second group.
There is a whole thread’s worth of discussion about the dynamics of the interaction of the second group and the first group. How the needs of one group are being supported by the other. But I don’t want my post deleted.
And that fits neatly into an area where we also now have the issues in schools.
Where single sex spaces for girls, particularly spaces even more necessary in this era of pornification, is being dramatically eroded. And adults seem to be ignoring the effects of this pornification to accommodate gender identity issues. Or were sexual assaults always so high in schools and just not reported before?
Because it seems on one hand that we should have even better safeguards in place for female safety, but these are eroded by male entering into female safe spaces if they have a trans identity.
The extreme vulnerability of these young people who are trans identitied have also fed into forcing the language changes. And this narrative around ‘safe spaces’ or bubbles. So not just transmen or transboys but those with NB identities as well.
This is also the group heavily invested in tik tok and the constant visual reinforcement of transition stories. Plus the social justice hype captures them young. I have seen it in action myself.
So, no. It is not all about the males. It may seem like it though.