Why do people think TW dominate the 'discussion'?

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So - I'm interested into why TW seem to dominate the trans debate. My only thought it that TW were born male and therefore have all the physical and psychological elements that contribute to men having the privilege and sense of entitlement to have the final say. I can't help but feel the whole thing actually does more harm for trans people generally and certainly doesn't help trans men.

Thoughts?

And of course, the erosion of womens language, whoever it's instigated by, is generally 'good' from a TW perspective and bad for women. Notable also that there aren't many similar changes in mens terminology, and more... see also

What male only spaces are trans men fighting for the right to access? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4654836-what-male-only-spaces-are-trans-men-fighting-for-the-right-to-access

Sorry but the drive to eliminate the use of the word woman in anything to do with female health matters is driven by males who identify as women. It was transwomen objecting to pussy hats and discussion of female health issues during the now so called Women's Marches which started it all off.

I was going to say that what really pissed me off was after the overturning of Row Vs Wade, it seemed to be TW who were the most up in arms about the use of the word 'women' when it came to abortions, I felt like I saw less objection to the use of the word by TM.

A massive, historical, devastating blow to the freedom of women and yet we were still talking about men.

We are not allowed to talk about anything to do with women unless the word women could possibly mean TW too.

Some exploration in this article about murder rates amongst TW in the UK

unherd.com/2022/01/the-truth-about-trans-murders/

Also, shades of SG. If you let yourself actually think about what you've done you'd scream forever. Easier to co-opt more people into the same nightmare and claim solidarity than to look in the mirror.

This.

Mansplaining trigger warning.

“There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women."

Women are overworked, underappreciated and underpaid in our society. As soon as they make up the majority of an workforce, the pay and conditions drop to recognise the fact that statistically, they are more likely to take career breaks and be grateful to pick up 40% of the pay for a three-day week. This is beginning to happen in medicine, law and other professions as the women become the majority within cohorts at university.

So, if a man makes a better surgeon or pilot than a woman, it surely follows that rather than stumbling through training bras, teenage grooming disasters, those shoes that you loved but never went with that dress and a million other things that you encountered growing into womanhood ... Imagine how much better a woman you'd be today, going straight into patent Manolos, primped, preened and socially welcomed as an election candidate in a major city for example.

It's a man's thing 🤷‍♀️
TWAM

I do wonder what many trans people make of all of this. Am sure opinions are massively varied. The narrative is driven by TRA though and they certainly have agenda. I worry about the backlash.

Well I’ve just had my thread on Zara advertising women’s clothing in the women’s section by a man deleted, as it’s “not in the spirit of the site” so mumsnet also seem to be on the bandwagon too.

I think for two reasons:

1. Transmen aren't causing much trouble. They're not disrupting sports, raping women in prison, bypassing traditional cultural safeguards or much of anything else. They don't even put themselves forward into the media spotlight so much because they're typically motivated less by a desire to be validated as a man so much as they were uncomfortable with what they were told being woman had to mean.
2. The translobby want to present the best possible view on their movement and a young woman who has been convinced to cut off her breasts or has half a moustache is a lot more likely to horrify to most than "stunning and brave" drag queens having fun. So they're not promoted to the media so much.

My message was deleted thats all you need to know. I said nothing controversial. Free Speech is dead.