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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Binding Breasts

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notidentifying22 · 12/10/2022 04:22

The latest from Lucy Leader discussing the dangers of breast binding and the complicity of LLLI in promoting a lifestyle that regards this action as harmless. Chest binding: A modern Day Version of Foot Binding

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bellinisurge · 15/10/2022 08:46

As someone smarter than me said on Twitter, they should bind the feet of boys who want to transition. The feet and hands are a dead giveaway.
Obviously, I don't agree with the practice of binding anything but the sentiment is spot on.

Wanderingowl · 15/10/2022 10:01

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:39

ah no.... there is little difference. You should try it!

Who the actual fuck do you think you are fooling with such asinine comparisons? We are all women here, nearly all mothers, a significant proportion of us breastfed, some of us extensively. We know breasts. The only people who will cling on to the sports bra comparison are the people who are desperately trying to stay in denial for the horrible damage to young women which they have cheerled for years.

I'm mid-40s, I have naturally F cup breasts, I have been pregnant or breastfeeding for 7 years of my life, through my 30s my weight yo-yo'd and I was eventually overweight to the point of obesity. I've lost that weight now but all the changes to my breasts and the skin around them have taken a toll. And yet when I look at photographs of very young women, often still in their teens, who have been binding for a few years, the contrast is insane. They have irreversibly damaged the tissue of their breasts so badly that their breasts and mine are incomparable. It's actually hard to get my head around how damaged they are and the constant, low-level pain they must have been in to have broken down the breast tissue bit by bit.

I spend plenty of my life in a sports bra. I was reasonably athletic in my 20s and I'm highly athletic in my 40s. A sports bra does not damage my chest, it does not cause pain. On the contrary, it prevents pain. It supports my breasts when I'm jumping or running. I have a strong preference for not wearing a bra when I do upper body resistance training because I want my chest muscles to fully engage and to feel that engagement. But I have once made the mistake of going straight to burpees after weights. So I know exactly what my sports bra protects me from. The pain and damage it prevents. A binder and a sports bra are not comparable and trying to compare them is disgusting. My sports bra is an occasional aid that allows me to stay strong and healthy. A binder would destroy that.

Helleofabore · 15/10/2022 12:07

Here’s a thought for @MishyJDI and Willoughby.

Go off and do the experiment for 3-5 years and come back and tell us it is just like a sports bra. Run three times a week for at least 40 minutes and document it live on camera. Wear it for 8-10 hours like teens are.

Do it and then tell us it was just like a sports bra. We will get a doctors report on not only your fitness but the structure of those breasts being crushed after that time.

Let’s get this documented and proven! those declaring snidely that it is just like a sports bra, do the challenge.

ReunitedThorns · 15/10/2022 12:16

bellinisurge · 15/10/2022 08:46

As someone smarter than me said on Twitter, they should bind the feet of boys who want to transition. The feet and hands are a dead giveaway.
Obviously, I don't agree with the practice of binding anything but the sentiment is spot on.

On the one hand with men, there is now this concept that a woman can have a penis and beard and it is discrimination to say that they are not women. Traditional MtF trannsexuals will tuck (which does have health problems too) and do everything they can to appear female).

For women it appears that they have to have all the features of men to be considered men. I don't see the argument that men can have visible breasts pushed much.

What I'm seeing is that currently the argument is that trans men have to physically transition, but trans women don't have to do anything.

Datun · 15/10/2022 13:20

I know Michy pens these non sequiturs and wind up posts, on purpose to, well, wind women up.

And, of course they succeed some of the time.

But what they also achieve, in huge numbers, is more and more women taking about the issues, and being shown links, clips, interviews, and films to expose exactly what the ideology does.

So while mshy goes away sniggering at enraging women on a feminist board, they end up recruiting more women to its cause.

bellinisurge · 15/10/2022 15:33

"What I'm seeing is that currently the argument is that trans men have to physically transition, but trans women don't have to do anything."

Interesting that you never see "suck my man breasts" as an insult rather than "suck my lady dick". Wonder why .......

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 15/10/2022 15:39

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:31

Anyone ever worn a sports bra? ummmm....yeah!

I wear one nearly everyday to workout in, it doesn't flatten my chest, everyone can tell I still have breasts. You're a fucking idiot to claim they are the same, and if you're so sure they are the same, then binders can be scrapped all together. They clearly are not needed.

FemaleAndLearning · 16/10/2022 00:20

Gosh I hadn't realised how flattening or crushing binders were. Thank you for sharing those tik tok clips. I bet the women/girls jumping around for joy when they got their binders in the post can't actually do that whilst wearing a binder. This is self harm and it needs to be properly branded as that.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 16/10/2022 00:53

Why is this person asking a forum full of women if they've ever worn a sports bra?

Don't indulge them with details!

Datun · 16/10/2022 08:11

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 16/10/2022 00:53

Why is this person asking a forum full of women if they've ever worn a sports bra?

Don't indulge them with details!

Ugh, you're right.

Datun · 16/10/2022 08:13

Interesting that you never see "suck my man breasts" as an insult rather than "suck my lady dick". Wonder why .......

No! And doesn't it sound shocking!

There's zero symmetry to all this.

FrancescaContini · 16/10/2022 08:56

Also interesting that teenage boys who want to “change sex” 🧐 aren’t encouraged to bind their cocks. I do wonder why………

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