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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Paul Brand / ITV falsely says LGBAlliance opposes transgender rights

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ChristinaXYZ · 05/10/2022 19:11

If anyone fancies complaining

twitter.com/BevJacksonAuth/status/1577717075665195008

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ReunitedThorns · 15/10/2022 12:11

Shakenotslurred · 15/10/2022 08:12

I’m confused. If asexuality is basically not feeling sexual desire, what rights do they need fighting for?

I have no idea. For Stonewall it's another cash cow. Create a label, then create the illusion of discrimination, and then raise more money.

It's like people calling themselves non-binary, and inventing a need for rights (like a new sex option on forms) and then calling discrimination when it doesn't exist.

Helleofabore · 15/10/2022 14:10

Isn’t Mishy the poster who claimed that Matthew Paris didn’t know much about Gay Rights history? Hmm

JeffThePilot · 15/10/2022 14:38

ReunitedThorns · 14/10/2022 23:04

Many of the LGBA members are former Stonewall members. Seems like a lot of posters here want to trans the gay away.

I've heard too many people say that because it is LGBT, the LGB are going to take the hit for the excessives of the trans movement.

Stonewall have recently starting pushing asexual rights as they're seeing the trans money dry up (as it's a saturated market).

Fuck sake. I’m asexual and it’s nobody’s business, and it’s not something I feel the need to go shouting about, as it impacts on my human rights in precisely zero ways.

Helleofabore · 17/10/2022 11:25

www.cbsnews.com/news/david-sedaris-on-coming-out-all-over-again/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab8c&linkId=185816832

I was ‘kinda’ shocked to hear that one woman described herself ‘queer’ because she was tall…

But then again, we telling posters like Mishy that queer is an umbrella term for anyone now. Anyone who wants it. So, when Mishy declares ’yeah well you aint queer dear. x’, it is meaningless.

I find it remarkable that on one hand a poster can declare that they are LGB and that LGB Alliance doesn’t ‘nothing’ for them. And then slips into using ‘queer’ as if LGB Alliance should be working for ‘queer’ people’s interests

So, is Mishy one of the posters gleefully misrepresenting the LGB Alliance’s words to try to portray the majority of the people they represent (not ‘supporters’ or donators as they are different) are heterosexual? Because that seems rather hypocritical if true. Because Mishy uses ‘queer’ to describe themselves if I read that post upthread correctly. And ‘queer’ now includes heterosexuals and anyone else.

Consistency doesn’t seem to be a thing these days.

Helleofabore · 18/10/2022 13:04

yetanotherusernameAgain · 14/10/2022 10:44

Actually, most of the campaigns currently listed on that page are to do with gender ideology and transgender:

  • Gay Teens Aren't Sick: same-sex young people who are referred to gender clinics is homophobic.
  • Gay News: encourage digitisation of 'Gay News' on the British Newspaper Archive.
  • End Conversion Therapy: Sexual orientation and gender identity are two distinct categories which need to be considered separately. Mostly about defining conversion therapy in relation to gender identity, very little about gay conversion therapy.
  • Justice for Alison [Bailey]: her employment tribunal about the Stonewall complaint.
  • Gender Recognition Act Reform: all about trans.
  • Lets Talk About Sex: leads to a Welsh site about the Welsh Government’s LGBTQ+ Action Plan. Much of it seems to be focused on the effect of gender ideology on sex-based issues.
  • Sex In the Census 2021: using the term 'sex' in the census.
  • Hate Crime bill (Scotland): including 'sex' as a hate crime (to cover misogynistic hate crime) and supporting Johann Lamont's amendments (which includes calling for sex to be defined).
  • Schools Campaign: Genderbread Person and teaching gender ideology in schools.

So apart from digitising back copies of Gay News, everything else has an element of gender/trans.

And posting this here too as it is relevant to this post:

acpuk.org.uk/the-cass-review-and-its-implications-psychologically-informed-considerations-for-the-future/

Under the section titled 'Psychological and social factors' is this.

"As psychologists, we are aware that many young people who experience same-sex attraction will, at some stage, question their gender identity or experience gender dysphoria. They are also likely to behave in gender-nonconforming ways."

"Homophobia persists to some extent both within health and social care settings, and in wider civil society. We need to better understand the possible relationships between the experience of homophobia and gender identity exploration and/or dysphoria in some young people."

I would love to see the reason clarified again why LGB Alliance should not be involved in ensuring same sex or bisexual young people are receiving the very best level of health care. Just like every single person in this country should.

Even the Association of Clinical Psychologists have put it in their statement.

It does tend to put the post from yetanotherusernameAgain into perspective.

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