Irish girls are being subjected to this

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“An Irish company called Shona managed to convince Irish schools to let them stream dangerous gender ideologues into the classrooms of 15k Irish schoolgirls. They also promote a book claiming the "yeet the teets" doctor is an inspiration for girls.”

From the website 4W. Any Irish mothers here know about this?
https://4w.pub/stream-trans-activists-irish-girls/

Bumping this as it does look like something parents need to be aware of.

God this is worrying. I wonder if it will be broadcast in girls schools? There appears to be more single sex schools here than in UK (a throwback to our being a church-led state I suppose) My kids are in a co-Ed secondary school but I will still drop them an email to check if they plan to screen it. I sincerely hope not.

Fuck sake. I used to follow the Shona project in the early days and they looked like they were doing good and useful work.

This is awful. Ireland is falling down the rabbit hole when all the other countries are coming back up for air

"falling down the rabbit hole"? Nope. We're stuck right down the bottom and there's a concrete slab on top of it with a load of gormless self-congratulatory f***s jumping up and down patting themselves on the back!

I'm a bit cross today but you get my point.

Have just had a look at the Shona project website and there is no mention of Sara Philips speaking at the shine festival ??

Or of Taryn...have they been doing a lot of programme rejigging or were they speakers previous years?

I don't think Sara Philips spoke in previous years.. sure isn't he only dressing up the last 3 years?

What is yeet the teets?

Irish doctor who works in the us and is all over social media celebrating how many girls healthy breasts she's surgically removed which she refers to as yeeting the teets. Look up sidhbh gallagher

I call her Scythe Gallagher. A disgrace.

That doctor is an absolute horror show. Very little shocks me about this whole debacle any more, but she still can.

Call me what you like (transphobe, extreme right, bigot, bring it on) but how do we live on a world where doctors advertise breast removal to children on tik tok?

I don't have girls, just boys. I can't tell you how grateful I am for that at this precise moment in time. Navigating girls through puberty is hugely challenging at the best of times, but with all this crap on top? 🤯

The fact I worked in construction probably delayed my transition quite a bit. I've many years of experience, working at a high level in multinational companies, but when I applied for a job 12 years ago, I didn't believe I'd get a fair shake at an interview if I presented myself as female and trans at that.
From the linked article m.independent.ie/life/what-it-feels-like-to-tell-your-colleagues-youve-become-a-woman-36144509.html

Not the first transwoman I've heard say that! What a privilege to be able to decide when you can be a woman in order to protect your career.

She really is a horror show, I'm so ashamed that she's Irish.

Between this and the removal of single sex toilets in (new and retrofitted) schools I'm so concerned for our teens

Yes and no. I think that we need to try and be completely accurate about what is going on here or we will struggle even harder to change things. Two things are very, very bad here. The first is the sneaky passing of The Gender Recognition act, which is genuinely a fucking shit show in waiting. The other, which I think is common in a lot of the west, is the capture of all of our campaigning organisations, like the WCI (formerly NWCI), Amnesty, BeLonGTo, etc. But what makes it worse here, is that we are coming right off the back of two major progressive, very popular referendums. So those captured organisations have such massive widespread good will from the general populace and media. I think most of us here were probably involved in those referendum campaigns and certainly by 2018, and the signs were already there that trans issues were being pushed. (Apart from within, In Her Shoes, where Erin D'Arcy kept them out.)

On the other hand, as much as we allow people to self-ID as the opposite sex, to date, the prison service is working hard to keep transwomen away from women prisoners. I know this may not seem like a lot, but we do have a prison service that is copped on enough to keep violent sex offenders away from vulnerable women prisoners and to not allow them to be alone with women prison guards. And unfortunately that's actually huge right now. Because in the UK, that's not the case even if technically the the transwomen have more 'rights' in Ireland. In practical terms, someone/s at the top in the prison service has their head screwed on. The campaigning groups are campaigning against the prison service here. But I think we know from the Birthing Parent/Liveline/Dublin Pride debacle in June, that if/when there is any legal challenge to house someone like Barbie Kardashian with women, people won't go along with it.

That's an excellent post @Wanderingowl

I'm not sure what you're saying about prisons. They've already housed men in female prisons here (in one of the most crowded prisons in the country) but they seem to be supervised (which is kind of acknowledging that they're men isn't it?) Last I heard there were three in Limerick. On the upside it clearly means we don't all believe people actually change sex, but the fact that you can be accused of a serious crime (including sexual and violent crimes against women and children), then apply for and get magicked into womanhood and sent to the women's prison is not really great news or sign of anyone having their head screwed on right.

I'm not sure can I link this but this is the Countess site and their prison section:
thecountess.ie/tag/prisons/

They haven't. They are in the women's wing of the prison but kept in isolation away from the women. And women prison guards are never left alone with them. The prison service is obeying the letter of the law but someone high up in the service is clearly unwilling to allow them any access to women prisoners and has created rules for their treatment that ensure the safety of the women in their care.

It's really important that we are accurate in what we are claiming is happening. If we claim worse things are happening than actually are we will look hyperbolic and it will make it so very much harder to get public support. The prison situation in Ireland is significantly better than in the UK because clearly someone in the service is not captured. And we should acknowledge that.

The prison service is obeying the letter of the law but someone high up in the service is clearly unwilling to allow them any access to women prisoners and has created rules for their treatment that ensure the safety of the women in their care.

Is that corroborated anywhere? I'd obviously love to believe that's the case.

They are in a women's prison, or the women's wing if you prefer. I cannot see that as a positive. How that is being implemented may be better than other alternatives (I'm thinking Canada in particular) but I don't share your positivity.

Like TheKeatingFive I'd like to see corroboration of the claim that someone high up is making conscious decisions. TBH even if they are, if it is dependent on an individual rather than the legislative system there is no guarantee that this particular implementation will continue.

The trans prisoners are kept in solitary as the service are citing Rule 63 of the Irish Prison Rules 2007, which relates to vulnerable prisoners who may be at risk from other prisoners or who might pose a risk to other inmates. So, it's pretty obvious that there is someone or someone's who has gone out of their way to keep the trans prisoners away from the women.

Yes, a lot really needs to be changed, as soon as possible. The GRA is a fucking time bomb of disaster after disaster. But right now women in our prisons are safer than they are in the UK. That's really huge. Most especially for those women. But also because it shows that the institutional capture we're experiencing is not without very real internal resistance.

The details are in the 2021 report of the Office of the Inspector of Prisons. Amnesty International, the NCWI and certain local politicians tried to kick up a big stink about the horrible treatment of the poor transwomen when it came out last year.
www.oip.ie/

Really interesting Wanderigowl. I was thinking about this the other day when reading about the situation in Scottish prisons. It seems much worse there, despite not having self ID yet.

I have just received my 13 year old daughters schools new "gender identity policy" to say I am furious is an understatement. I will be making noise at that school. The main thing is that if a student wants to transition they can speak in confidence to a specific gender policy teacher(!) If the student gives consent only then will the school inform the parents. Over night trips the "trans" student can chose which gender they feel comfortable sharing with!