Mermaids sending free binders to teen girls

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/25/exclusive-trans-charity-mermaids-giving-breast-binders-children/

Can also be found in the usual place.

“A transgender children’s charity is giving potentially dangerous chest-flattening devices to 14-year-olds against their parents’ wishes, an investigation by The Telegraph has found

Mermaids, which receives funding from the taxpayer and runs training for schools and the NHS, offered to send a breast binder discreetly to a girl they believed was only 14, even after they were told that she was not allowed to use one by her mother.

Evidence obtained by The Telegraph shows that the charity’s staff have offered binders to children as young as 13 who say that their parents oppose the practice.”

We sometime get the odd poster here denying Mermaids does this (or saying there is no evidence that it happens) despite people with direct experience stating that it does. And yes, it does happen.

archive.ph/2022.09.25-200602/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/25/exclusive-trans-charity-mermaids-giving-breast-binders-children/

Archive link to whole article.

The charity commission need to act

And not the first time these groups have been caught out...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6450485/Trans-activists-send-free-breast-binders-13-year-olds.html

In one conversation in a group for 12 to 15-year olds, a moderator publicly congratulated a girl when they described how they decided they were a trans boy by the age of 13 and now wanted “all the surgeries” and “all the hormones”.

jesus

as I've said before they advocate for transing children, not for 'trans' children

if they advocated for 'trans' children they'd give a shit about the side effects and long term outlook for the drugs and surgeries they push kids to want

There was one time someone who was self medding who asked about increasing their dose and the mod response was that self medicating wasn’t something they cover plus a bit of general waffle about not making up your own increases. NOTHING about the risks of self medicating. Even though it wasn’t “something we cover”, they couldn’t bring themselves to highlight the risks. Even though it wasn’t just that person reading but also children as well as 12.

It is horrific and the article, while excellent, doesn’t show the worst of it.

Surely it will be hard for the CHarity Commision to avoid investigation now.

Mermaids really seem to have avoided scrutiny so far. Surely, their time has run out.

The Telegraph reports that the Charity Commission was informed in 2020. And yet here we are.

Time for a recap on how we got here?

Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP and others
twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1566034555030626304?s=46&t=ll8FVDVEW8jmxPy7ouS7Tg

Mermaids after former Attorney General Braverman gave a speech on the law
twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1557619240710062080?s=46&t=ll8FVDVEW8jmxPy7ouS7Tg

Mike Freer MP

twitter.com/banctorg/status/1537467611268751361?s=46&t=ll8FVDVEW8jmxPy7ouS7Tg

So many MPs

twitter.com/banctorg/status/1524420301307715586?s=46&t=ll8FVDVEW8jmxPy7ouS7Tg

'The latest annual accounts from 2020-21 show that Mermaids received a total income of more than £1.8 million, an increase of almost a million on the previous year. The charity boasts that it earned more than £60,000 from training – double what it predicted – providing sessions for the police, NHS children’s mental health service, hospital trusts, charities and fostering agencies.

They say that they gave 59 training sessions at schools, and that participants of sessions have included GPs, educational psychologists, therapists and paediatric nurses.'

The Telegraph reports that the Charity Commission was informed in 2020. And yet here we are.

This was the CC’s response in 2020. Will it be any different now?

Has anyone actually reported Mermaids to the Charity Commission or is it just spoken about when there's yet another scandal? Given their behaviour like this towards children I'm surprised at the lack of public accountability.

Mermaids would not comment on the details of the investigation, but said binding “helps alleviate” the “distress” of gender dysphoria for some and it took “a harm reduction position” that providing a binder “alongside comprehensive safety guidelines from an experienced member of staff is preferable to the likely alternative of unsafe practices and/or continued or increasing dysphoria”.

Five minutes ago they said they're not medical experts, and know fuck all about fucking nothing to do with medical treatment.

Mermaids said the user – an adult posing as a teenager under the pseudonym Kai – had to have been a member of the charity’s online Youth Forum for a month and posted three times before it would supply them with a binder.

Ah yes, that well-known diagnosis - three online posts.

I don't think I've ever seen a charity so fucking slippery.

Just making this point:

'Mermaids would not comment on the details of the investigation, but said binding “helps alleviate” the “distress” of gender dysphoria for some and it took “a harm reduction position” that providing a binder “alongside comprehensive safety guidelines from an experienced member of staff is preferable to the likely alternative of unsafe practices and/or continued or increasing dysphoria”.'

The study into the side effects of binding found that wearing a binder was likely to be more harmful than DIY efforts.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27300085/

www.researchgate.net/publication/303981941_Health_impact_of_chest_binding_among_transgender_adults_a_community-engaged_cross-sectional_study

'Over 97% reported at least one of 28 negative outcomes attributed to binding ... Commercial binders were the binding method most consistently associated with negative outcomes'

I don't think anything will happen to them. They are also far from alone in sending out binders in plain wrappers to underage kids. We have schools not telling parents when kids are socially transitioned. It is endemic because our institutions believe or purport to believe (or are too frightened not to pretend to believe) the indoctrination that they have paid Stonewall et al to deliver to them for years. They think they are rescuing the children from the parents. They think they are the good ones.

It would be fantastic if a similar expose was done on all these so called charities i.e. GIRES, Gendered Intelligence ad nauseum as they are all as bad as each other

This.

Hilary Cass said that social transition is not neutral. It's treatment. They're not qualified.

They've just bloody well said so in court.

I wonder what Mermaids would say about an adult man sending a 13 year old girl he'd 'met' online a corset and what they think the difference is.

Some people may hate the antipodean fruiters but that site documented the horrendous damage done to breast tissue by binders. The many photos of before and after 'top surgery' should be enough to disabuse anyone who thinks binders are harmless gender expression wear. Often the before photos were as shocking as the after.

It's no wonder it's attacked so much by those who want to hide reality.

Especially after he would have to have asked her what size chest she had.

Did anything ever happen re the forum moderators not removing recommendations fir the drs who were suspended?

The ceos entire ted talk is based on stereotypes and assumptions the toddler was gay and an abusive husband banning toys.

I fear there is nothing this charity can do that will make people see them in a different light.

surprised that they have less than 2 million a year in income. Stonewall have 11.

Must smart a bit.

Mermaids have been very clear that their position is they do not provide any medical advice in the LGBA court hearing. So how does this square up? Can they non-medically suggest or provide something like this, considering the risks?

And where do they make all their money? Training, mostly schools. So we are effectively funding breast binding

They are lying surely?

Other web chats passed to this newspaper as part of a dossier of evidence show a Mermaids worker telling what they believe is a 14-year-old boy that the worker has been on puberty for blockers “many years” and “have never had a problem”.
Though admitting that they are not medically qualified, they add that the drugs “halt puberty and if they come off them then it carries on”.
A charity worker tells another user that puberty blockers “simply suppress the onset of puberty until you are ready to make a decision how to go forward. They are totally reversible”.

This is medical advice, even if it's wrong.

As the court case where Mermaids claim "not to be medical experts" has not yet been completed, presumably all this evidence of them dabbling in "providing equipment to enable children to change their bodies" and advising children on the impact of drugs on their bodies would raise issues about their senior staff lying under oath / committing perjury?
No responsible adult would enable someone else's child to perform body modification or advise a random child about the impact of medication on their body without medical qualifications? Would they?

"Did not identify any regulatory issues"

How about child protection issues? Did those not occur to the Charity Commission?