#WPATH2022

[WarriorN]

Genspect have just raised my awareness of the current WPATH 2022 conference going on and can be followed on twitter via the above hashtag.

For anyone interested.

Thanks for this. I particularly noticed this speaker,

Kamilla Kamaruddin a UK transgender GP.
‘How GPs in the UK can collaborate w charitable organisations to help trans people in the community’ Thank you @LTTcancer @TransActualUK @Spectra_London @TheClareProject for presenting with me at @wpath #WPATH2022 . t.co/Zi8x6npDt1

Not on Twitter proper so can't link, but this is one of the tweets.
Someone else commented wondering what sex work has to do with WPATH. Does anyone understand this?
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Sep 17
“Sex work is work” 👏🏼 what a great statement to hear walking into the start of #WPATH2022. Can’t wait for all the discussions on #SexualHealth and #ReproductiveHealth to help promote sexual wellbeing among TGD folks.

Kamilla Kamaruddin doesn't always tell their patients that they are male and now performs intimate examinations on women, which makes Dr Kamaruddin so happy.

But it was my patients who took me by surprise the most. No one was hostile towards me. Some thought I was the wife of Dr Kamaruddin, me, their doctor, and a lot of them thought that I was a new GP. The new patients did not ask any questions at all because they either thought I was a female GP or it did not bother them at all that I was a transgender doctor.

A lot of my patients were quite conservative — many female patients wore long clothes, or the hijab — but they allowed me to examine them despite my change. In fact, after my transition, they even allowed me to perform more intimate examinations that they did not let me to do when I was a male GP. Every single one of them refused my offer of a chaperone even when they knew that I am transgender. After the positive experience on my first day back to work, I remembered having tears in my eyes during my drive home. I was overwhelmed with emotions, and they were tears of happiness. I could not recall the last time I felt this happy.

bjgp.org/content/67/660/313

Ugh. Grim. Ignoring women’s boundaries and blurring consent to satisfy your own needs. There’s a name for males like that. 🤬

Ugh. What sort of doctor talks like that. Being 'allowed' to touch patients intimately shouldn't be bringing tears to a doctors eyes.

Bleugh.

Thanks.

Following with interest. And growing levels of "fucking hell"

I haven't been able to look today but I do find conference hashtags revealing for lgbtq educational things.

It's pretty grim isn't it.

And so contradictory as always!

Someone on Twitter to Dr Kamaruddin:

'I've stayed for one of your sessions and was appalled. GPs expressing perfectly reasonable concerns about dangers of prescribing 'bridging hormones' B4 pts are seen in sec care, with no clear guidance/pathway - and you dismissing them with "Email me".'

'Because Kamilla is a GP. Not a specialist endocrinologist. The patient won't have seen a specialist before taking exogenous hormones and there would be no shared care agreement in place. Not conducive to patient safety.'

Would be helpful if Hilary Cass was attending the conference. Do you think she would be, or following it?

Genspect seem to be following v closely.

I'd imagine some researchers somewhere related to Cass would be?

The guidelines are ridiculous though anyway and the nhs don't follow them.

The NHS seem to be pretty closely linked to WPATH. two NHS doctors are senior members.

That’s incredibly alarming. GPS should not be talking like this about performing intimate examinations on women. It’s beyond unacceptable.

But do they work privately or are they under GIDs? Technically speaking the nhs runs it's own guidelines?

NHS England (I don't know the date of this document and whether it is still current):

www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Transhealth/Documents/gender-dysphoria-guide-for-gps-and-other-health-care-staff.pdf

This document is also informed by the seventh edition of the World Professional Association of Transgender Health (WPATH) Standards of Care

NHS Wales link to WPATH on their site:

www.wales.nhs.uk/document/184390/info/

But NHS Scotland seem to have had second thoughts about associating with WPATH after the consultation which included eunuch as a gender identity:

www.nss.nhs.scot/publications/foi-000151-unlicensed-eunuch-procedures-and-the-care-of-the-patients/foi-000151-unlicensed-eunuch-procedures-and-the-care-of-the-patients-html/

Ok thanks - this is what it links to. I note it's to be reviewed in 2023.

www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/how-to-find-an-nhs-gender-identity-clinic/

Trying to see what Nice says and saw this:

www.nice.org.uk/Media/Default/Get-involved/Meetings-In-Public/Public-board-meetings/nov20-pbm-agenda-papers-centre-for-guidelines-report.docx

Other specific guidelines and advice

1. We have developed two evidence reviews for the treatment of gender dysphoria commissioned by NHS England and Improvement. The evidence reviews will be used to support the Cass review into gender identify services for children and young people. The evidence reviews were produced using an NHS England process and will be used to inform NHS England policy on prescribing of treatments for gender dysphoria. It is anticipated that NHS England will publish the evidence reviews in 2021 alongside the recommendations from the Cass review.

Ugh
I can’t say what I think about how Dr Kamaruddin comes across in that tweet because we’re not allowed to talk about it.

As for working more closely with GPs in this area I will be saying ‘no thank you’

Also noting Dr Kamaruddin is listed on the practise website as 'female'. So anyone specifically looking for a female GP will not be informed that Dr K is in fact male.

Webberly is "stoked" about the drop of minimum age

More marvellous stuff from the WPATH conference:

Author Of New WPATH Guidelines Recommends Threatening Parents With Call To Child Protective Services

Massey appeared pleasantly surprised to learn that CPS workers in Georgia had intervened in instances where parents were hesitant to accept their child’s new transgender identity. “And that was educative for me to learn that in my conservative state there are at least some Child Protective Service workers who are willing to enforce the need for affirmation by parents at least with social transition needs, names, pronouns et cetera,” said Massey. “So that may be a resource in states, provinces, regions, countries around the world.”

Massey suggests that threatening to call Child Protective Services on a parent who doesn’t affirm their child’s transgender identity may be all that is needed for the parent to cooperate with socially transitioning their child. “Even before making that call, letting parents know that if that’s true where you are practicing that might get their attention a little bit,” said Massey.

So if the narrative about suicide doesn't work, threaten parents with social services. Also working on the premise that parental consent is nice but not essential, I see.

Bloody hell, the comments under that article. Every single one of them quite prepared to use any violent method at their disposal to deal with those pushing gender ideology.
They'll use guns and face jail if necessary, no hesitation.

As a parent who was reported to social services by my daughter’s (former) school, I cannot emphasise enough just how evil using the threat of Child Protective Services for parents who wish to be cautious and not affirm is. It puts you under horrific pressure, even where social services are supportive of your position. In our case, I recently discovered (via a SAR) that the school repeatedly approached social services (without our knowledge) up to 8 months after our case was closed. To see this approach pushed at a WPATH conference is not surprising but is horrific.

My god, rogdmum. I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine.

Yes, Datun. Threaten to take people's children away - whether forcibly via SS, or in a more insiduous manner, by co-opting them into a movement that threatens to sterilise or subject them to harm, and that kind of reaction should probably be unsurprising.