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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Social Work England leaves Stonewall Diversity Champions

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ImNotAnExpert · 13/09/2022 19:26

www.communitycare.co.uk/2022/09/13/social-work-england-swaps-stonewall-lgbt-foundation/

'Social Work England has left a Stonewall scheme designed to increase inclusion for LGBTQ+ staff in favour of an alternative training programme.

The regulator said it was joining charity the LGBT Foundation’s training academy, on the grounds that it was a better fit for delivering its equality, diversity and inclusion action plan, published in February, than Stonewall’s diversity champions scheme.'

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'Despite its growth, a number of high-profile public bodies have left diversity champions over the past 18 months, including the BBC, the Equality and Human Rights Commission, the Department for Education and Department of Health and Social Care.

Though these organisations have made limited comment on their reasons for leaving, the departures have been linked in media reports to Stonewall’s stance in the public debate around gender identity and sex. Its view, that trans people should always be able to self-determine their gender and access services and recognition on that basis, is opposed by those who hold the gender-critical belief that this would, in certain circumstances, undermine women’s sex-based rights, for example, access to single-sex spaces.

Social Work England said leaving diversity champions was a business decision, not linked to these issues.'

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Motnight · 13/09/2022 19:27

Brilliant news, thanks Op for posting

TheClogLady · 13/09/2022 19:39

this is good news!

but…

‘The regulator said it was joining charity the LGBT Foundation’s training academy, on the grounds that it was a better fit for delivering its equality, diversity and inclusion action plan, published in February, than Stonewall’s diversity champions scheme.‘

why is it a better fit?

Because it’s equality law compliant?

Because it’s cheaper?

or because it’s not reputationally damaged?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/09/2022 19:48

Ha! They obviously didn’t catch the LGBT CEO Paul Roberts performance at the LGBA v Mermaids hearing!

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 20:07

Yeah, Paul Robert's performance will warrant some reflection

ImNotAnExpert · 13/09/2022 20:21

Yes, I'm not sure LGBT Foundation are any better, tbh.

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WindmillOfWimbledon · 13/09/2022 20:23

LGBT fdn is from the same stable as Stonewall.

DownTheBackoftheSofa · 13/09/2022 20:35

It's good news even if not perfect news. Anything that diminishes Stonewall's grip on institutions is welcome.

Hoardasurass · 13/09/2022 20:38

What this says to me is that basically we need to make it illegal for any government department to pay to be lobbied by any group or they are just going to keep swapping groups when we prove each group is just as dodgy as stonewall is

FemaleAndLearning · 13/09/2022 20:38

Good news, but....goes off to research.

FemaleAndLearning · 13/09/2022 20:41

Oh that's enough research.

Social Work England leaves Stonewall Diversity Champions
Social Work England leaves Stonewall Diversity Champions
TheClogLady · 13/09/2022 20:44

It’s like an awful, post modern, political version of Whacka Mole.

ImNotAnExpert · 13/09/2022 20:47

FemaleAndLearning · 13/09/2022 20:41

Oh that's enough research.

Amazing.

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FannyCann · 13/09/2022 21:02

Don't celebrate too soon OP.
LGBT Foundation are the spawn of Stonewall, and administer the NHS Rainbow Badge scheme that has infected the NHS - just a variant of the Diversity scheme.

I do get the LGBT Foundation and the LGBT Consortium muddled up but I think LGBT Foundation has Edward Lord as a key player, whilst Paul Roberts of the stunning court performance is from the LGBT Consortium.

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bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 21:06

@TheClogLady , can I just say, that is magnificent

FannyCann · 13/09/2022 21:11

Here are some FOIs that reveal a bit more about the rainbow badge scheme.
From NHS England which lists the trusts signed up (40 this year, 10 in the pilot scheme last year), and the cost : £220k this year and £70k last year, to the LGBT Foundation which is administering the scheme.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/costoffthenhssrainbowbadgee_pr#incoming-2103218

FannyCann · 13/09/2022 21:13

Sorry, c&p error with the link. This one should do it.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/costoffthenhssrainbowbadgee_pr#incoming-2103218

Benjaminsniddlegrass · 13/09/2022 21:17

Literally just came on Mumsnet to see if this was being discussed. I am really not sure we are in any better position. Arghhh I get so frustrated about my profession who are supposed to be critical thinkers just accepting this drivel. Whacka-mole indeed!

FannyCann · 13/09/2022 21:22

The assessment process is detailed in this induction document.
Lots of hoops for trusts to jump through whilst they erase women.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/870748/response/2080857/attach/html/5/Induction%20pack.docx.html

Social Work England leaves Stonewall Diversity Champions
Social Work England leaves Stonewall Diversity Champions
LK1972 · 13/09/2022 21:37

Blimey, this is the first time I've seen this formulation: under 'women' tab it includes 'those whose gender identity includes woman some or all of the time'. Glad to see they've got Pip Bunce covered Grin

IcakethereforeIam · 14/09/2022 00:51

It's like Stonewall has metastasised.

Pixiedust1234 · 14/09/2022 02:36

Yeah, once I would have been jumping for joy, now I'm thinking...why are they leaving, whats the angle? So tired of questioning every little thing.

Also OP. Was that a typo when you wrote "left a stonewall scheme" instead of the . How many schemes do they have?

FannyCann · 14/09/2022 06:42

It's like Stonewall has metastasised.

Exactly that.

Janie143 · 14/09/2022 07:20

What I don't understand is why there is a need for any LGBT scheme at all. Or when "diversity" itself morphed into only being related to LGBT XYZ

BordoisAgain · 14/09/2022 07:43

#stonewallstillwinning

IloveHolby · 14/09/2022 07:50

Absolutely @Benjaminsniddlegrass I am also completely flummoxed re the lack of critical thinking. I keep on checking my own internal bias and reading all the evidence I can find - I have these moments of doubt but haven’t found any credible argument as to why there should be self ID.

It’s not the law yet here are these organisations getting services to implement it anyway. I was excited to read the title but realise it’s just more of the same.

Excellent analogy @TheClogLady When will the Whack-a-mole game end? Will Rachel Meade’s case wake up SWE to the craziness?

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