Third female prime minister

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Come on Labour, read the room

Interesting item on Women's hour this morning, highlighting how 2 of the 3 female PMs were coronations, taking over in an internal ballot when a male PM had to leave, only one has successfully fought and won a genral election.

(oops - embarrassing correction... not 9 PM's !! Last 9 Tory leaders). If we go by Tory PM's only:

Thatcher
Major
Cameron
May
Borris
Truss

3 female, 3 male.

Jesus wept

I really don’t think she was! She’s bloody awful!

my thoughts are seriously not ‘ Yaay! Another female PM’

They are ‘Oh fuck, the country’s fucked! There is no way she is competent to steer us through all the shit show facing the UK’

The best description of her I heard was ‘A strident vacuum’ 😬

She's shit. Being so wooden and incompetent, she's going to be unwaved by those urging timidity on talking about TRA demands.
Happy to use her to shed sunlight on this and to shame Labour into being grown ups.

It seems like the "glass cliff" effect - Theresa May was the same. Women suddenly get a look in at leadership roles when the men decide they don't want to be remembered for the inevitable problems that are coming. With Theresa May it was Brexit and with Liz Truss it's the cost of living crisis.

🙄

If I and half the populace have lost all their rights, what the hell is there else to be interested in in politics anyway?

Would you expect a slave class to let go of wanting boring things like their own equality and instead be interested in voting on the varied options their masters would have in their finances and resources?

I think most people are more interested in being able to cover their bills at the moment, wanting a leader who's roughly as competent as a Weetabix purely because she agrees with you on something that many many people won't have the energy to think about much as their businesses go to the wall or their granny freezes to death seems extremely short-sighted.

I know someone who's dealt with her professionally as a minister, btw, based on what they said I think I would rather trust the Weetabix. At least that's useful for something.

The best description of her I heard was ‘A strident vacuum’ 😬

I can't think of a single example of a man being called strident. Is misogyny OK if you don't like the woman being discussed?

I think whoever is PM, the future looks pretty bleak. But while its a choice between a bleak future but retaining legal recognition of women, or erasing sex in favour of 'gender', I'll probably be voting Tory.
Until very recently I would NEVER have dreamed I'd ever consider voting Tory. I am a lifelong lefty who voted twice for Corbyn as Labour leader, and twice for him as PM, and he still is the politician whose views I most closely align with, on everything except women's rights.

The thing is, the people who will struggle most with what is coming this winter will be female.

Labour have no better ideas, they openly hate women and would destroy the ability to even be allowed to say where the impact is falling or address it incase male people have a tantrum. Labour don't even have a basic grip on reality or an ability to function without homophobia, misogyny, the racism all around the side of it - there would be a limit to how much I'm prepared to hold my nose, even if they did stand there with actual answers and alternatives.

Because I think the poor will get poorer and that will disproportionately impact women and children.

Another shit show tory prime minister, this one just happens to be female.

Male or female, they’ll continue sacrificing the poor to ensure the rich get richer.

That’s really reaching.

I’ve always considered being strident a good thing, I like people who powerfully progress their convictions. But not those who are strident without a conviction. That’s where the insult lies.

I’ve also never considered it a word only associated with women.

So you can take your accusation that I’m a misogynist and stick it up your arse. I’ve risked losing my job to stand up for women’s GC rights. If that means fuck all to you because I used a word that has associations for me that it doesn’t have for me, then you might want to consider how helpful to the feminist movement you are being by so freely and quickly labelling women you don’t even know as misogynists.

A Tory government, whether they know what a woman is or not, will always disproportionately impact women (and children) particularly in times of financial crisis.

I can’t see this as a win for women, whatever you try to frame it as. It’s a loss for everyone except for the rich.

Penny Mordaunt will be glad to know you would have voted for her.

Reserving judgement. She did back peddle on Self ID, she negotiated successfully for Nazanin to be released... that's as far as I know tbh. She has been a bit flippant about single sex spaces. Let's hope she can save small businesses over this Winter from cost of living.

With the alternative option of what?

Show me the land of milk and honey I could have instead?

As opposed to the least worst option from a bunch of bloody awful ones?

That's a bit patronising. There were both male and female contenders for leader.

Interesting how people are keen to diminish her achievement on the basis of her sex.

I quite like Liz and I'm encouraged by her statements on free speech and women's rights.

Labour are so far behind they're basically out.

The shortlist for Conservative leader was the most diverse this country has ever seen (and probably most countries have ever seen). 2 out of 8 were white males I think? So, yes that was great to see, regardless of whether you agreed with any of the candidates as individuals.

I will give Truss a chance before writing her off.

Can't stand any of the Conservative candidates (quite liked Kemi Badenoch but massively disagree with her economics).

However I do think their diversity is very positive.

And like fuck would Labour cope with a female prime minister. They've made it essentially impossible now. She'd have to be brave enough to upset the misogynist bros or brazen enough to discard the actual female voters.

That’s really reaching.

Its really not, it's a well recognised phenomenon.

debuk.wordpress.com/2019/09/25/in-praise-of-strident-women/

sacraparental.com/2016/05/14/everyday-misogyny-122-subtly-sexist-words-women/