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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hooters sponsor children's football team

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ArabellaScott · 02/09/2022 11:30

Here's the most surprising new feminist publication of the 21st century, the Daily Mail, with coverage.

'Notorious bar Hooters has caused outrage after it announced that it was sponsoring a children's under-10s team for the forthcoming season.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11170151/Hooters-sponsor-local-10s-boys-football-team-enraging-parents-online.html

Weirdly the football team's twitter is all about 'encouraging females into the game', with mentors for girls etc.

If they can see that a female mentor can be a positive role model, what do they consider female staff in sexually provocative clothing?

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Iadorerain · 04/09/2022 00:36

Unfortunately the trans agenda and misogyny are inextricably linked.

CompleteGinasaur · 04/09/2022 00:43

Speaking for myself the issue is not that I view all issues related to Feminism through a gender ideology lens but rather precisely the reverse; I view gender ideology through a Feminist lens, one I have developed over 40+ years of reading, discussion and activism.

(And using that particular pair of decidedly unrosy spectacles I can't see any clothes on the Emperor at all..)

Boxowine · 04/09/2022 00:45

NotBadConsidering · 03/09/2022 23:27

The quote you quoted was most likely a pithy remark pointing out that Hooters most certainly knows what a woman is when it comes to objectifying women on the basis of sex. I don’t see TRAs protesting their local Hooters demanding transwomen be allowed to flaunt their chests there. It’s another example of the sexism of the movement.

And this discussion is right where it should be, because it’s a demonstration of the deliberate erosion of boundaries around sex, and exposing young children to the idea of sex, which is a tenet of Queer Theory underpinning much of what we see here.

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters? Do you think they just haven't gotten around to it yet or maybe it's just not about them? Or maybe Hooters has already hired their quota but prefers to not to advertise it so as to preserve the illusion of authenticity? Either way, none of this is any of their fault.

I want to say this chain is at least thirty years old, maybe more. I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory. More of a tacky good ole boys' kind of place. Where men are men and girls have, well, hooters. And bring you wings. That attitude has been around forever, trans could disappear tomorrow and we would still be right where we are right now with businesses selling women's objectification.

Boxowine · 04/09/2022 00:45

NotBadConsidering · 03/09/2022 23:27

The quote you quoted was most likely a pithy remark pointing out that Hooters most certainly knows what a woman is when it comes to objectifying women on the basis of sex. I don’t see TRAs protesting their local Hooters demanding transwomen be allowed to flaunt their chests there. It’s another example of the sexism of the movement.

And this discussion is right where it should be, because it’s a demonstration of the deliberate erosion of boundaries around sex, and exposing young children to the idea of sex, which is a tenet of Queer Theory underpinning much of what we see here.

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters? Do you think they just haven't gotten around to it yet or maybe it's just not about them? Or maybe Hooters has already hired their quota but prefers to not to advertise it so as to preserve the illusion of authenticity? Either way, none of this is any of their fault.

I want to say this chain is at least thirty years old, maybe more. I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory. More of a tacky good ole boys' kind of place. Where men are men and girls have, well, hooters. And bring you wings. That attitude has been around forever, trans could disappear tomorrow and we would still be right where we are right now with businesses selling women's objectification.

Boxowine · 04/09/2022 00:47

Iadorerain · 04/09/2022 00:36

Unfortunately the trans agenda and misogyny are inextricably linked.

By Hooters sponsoring a kids sports team? That's related to trans issues? Are the waitresses trans?

NotBadConsidering · 04/09/2022 03:41

Boxowine · 04/09/2022 00:45

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters? Do you think they just haven't gotten around to it yet or maybe it's just not about them? Or maybe Hooters has already hired their quota but prefers to not to advertise it so as to preserve the illusion of authenticity? Either way, none of this is any of their fault.

I want to say this chain is at least thirty years old, maybe more. I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory. More of a tacky good ole boys' kind of place. Where men are men and girls have, well, hooters. And bring you wings. That attitude has been around forever, trans could disappear tomorrow and we would still be right where we are right now with businesses selling women's objectification.

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters?

I don’t 🙄. But the fact is no one is desperately trying to identify into an exploitative situation.

I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory

I never said Hooters were proponents of Queer Theory. I said the idea that kids and sexualised society can freely mix is an example of Queer theory. Queer Theory has eroded these boundaries to the extent that people thought this was ok.

funzeny · 04/09/2022 04:19

If hooters is wrong, surely the Cabaret girls in a smaller outfit is just as bad. Theyre good looking younger girls (not men) in a bikini and a feather bower. What's the standard ?

NotBadConsidering · 04/09/2022 05:09

It doesn’t matter which is worse. What matters is the association of sexualised adult themes with children.

funzeny · 04/09/2022 05:17

NotBadConsidering · 04/09/2022 05:09

It doesn’t matter which is worse. What matters is the association of sexualised adult themes with children.

Absolutely ! I went off topic, but completely agree with children being kept away from any of this adult stuff as long as we can!!!!

BettyFilous · 04/09/2022 05:25

Believerinbiology · 03/09/2022 16:29

From thread in AIBU...the FA have stepped in and said it's not allowed. Cynical me thinks club and Hooters knew this all along. Both have got way more publicity than they would have done if partnership was more appropriate.

I had the same thought. Post-pandemic many businesses in the hospitality sector are struggling. This has garnered significant free publicity for a business with a niche USP in an otherwise crowded field.

TheMarzipanDildo · 04/09/2022 19:22

Boxowine · 04/09/2022 00:32

Maybe it would be better to rename this forum simply Sex and Gender and drop the "Feminism" bit altogether if all issues related to feminism must be viewed through a gender ideology lens.

Anyway, I wasn't the one who placed this topic here. I'm just wondering why a thread about a chain restaurant whose business model is as far away from progressive, woke, trans etc stuff as you can get has to be redirected to the trans debate. Can there be no discussion of regular old fashioned misogyny?

Gender ideology is regular old fashioned misogyny that’s had a lot of glitter thrown at it.

Anyway, I’m glad this has been stopped because it’s incredibly creepy.

LondonWolf · 04/09/2022 19:31

I used to live in Nottingham when Hooters had been open a few years and counted several of the girls who worked there at that time as friends. They were recruited by scouts going round the local nightclubs and passing cards to attractive girls. The (male) managers were total power crazed creeps and I saw in the paper reporting this story that one of them is still working there - twenty years on!

One thing I would say is that locally Hooters is seen as a bit of an institution, very much a family restaurant, families go there for lunch and dinners, hold parties there etc. So in Nottingham this sponsorship probably wouldn't be seen as negatively as it is to the wider public and non Nottingham residents.

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