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WBC Boxing Transgender Statement

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Dreikanter · 15/08/2022 21:40

More recognition of the requirements of safety and fairness in women’s sport.

wbcboxing.com/en/world-boxing-council-statement-guidelines-regarding-transgender-athletes-participation-in-professional-combat-sports/amp/

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GinUnicorn · 15/08/2022 21:43

Common sense at last.

ofwarren · 15/08/2022 21:46

Excellent

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 21:49

Very good.

AtrociousCircumstance · 15/08/2022 21:50

Excellent.

VestofAbsurdity · 15/08/2022 21:55

Ooh I can't wait for the TRAs and their allies to wade in with the We are being banned, we just want to box meaning We just want to be able to hit women and be lauded for it.

Binglebong · 15/08/2022 22:04

That's a great statement.

SettingsO · 15/08/2022 22:21

Great!

IsItShining · 15/08/2022 22:24

My goodness, they remembered to mention transmen!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/08/2022 22:25

So good to see sense and fairness starting to emerge. Now that #nodebate has been binned, reality and facts are being heard and acted on.

lingle · 15/08/2022 22:30

Surely trans women should be able to box against other trans women? Weight, etc, being equal?

respectmysex · 15/08/2022 22:32

lingle · 15/08/2022 22:30

Surely trans women should be able to box against other trans women? Weight, etc, being equal?

That would be a mens bout though wouldn't it? Trans boxers are not banned, they just can't compete in the opposite sex category.

lingle · 15/08/2022 22:36

See penultimate paragraph

MugginsOverEre · 15/08/2022 22:43

Great news. I did cringe at the use of cis but I understand why they used it and clarified with the word 'biological'.

VestofAbsurdity · 15/08/2022 22:47

Note they mention ring or cage so cage fighting too which is MMA , the sport Fallon Fox and that other TW whose name escapes me do isn't it?

VestofAbsurdity · 15/08/2022 22:48

The other TW being the one who put a woman in a choke hold.

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Dreikanter · 15/08/2022 22:49

lingle · 15/08/2022 22:36

See penultimate paragraph

At present level of scientific knowledge, the WBC consensus is that allowing transgender athletes to compete raises serious health and safety concerns.

It’s ambiguous as to whether transgender boxers are not allowed to compete in the opposite sex class (as discussed in the previous paragraphs) or whether they are not allowed to compete at all.

I suspect it will be clarified as the former rather than the latter.

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IsItShining · 15/08/2022 23:04

‘allowing transgender athletes to compete raises serious health and safety concerns’ might also arise in their own sex class. Transwomen with reduced testosterone might be uncompetitive with other male boxers, and transmen on testosterone might pose an increased risk to unmedicated female boxers.

lingle · 15/08/2022 23:07

It’s not ambiguous. But I appreciate it may be a drafting error (quite a bad one)

lingle · 15/08/2022 23:08

IsItShining - exactly. They are saying boxing is a special case

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Dreikanter · 15/08/2022 23:16

Transmen on T wouldn’t be allowed to compete against women though - falls foul of anti-doping regs. Transmen not on T should in theory be OK to box against women (although it would have to be the case that they hadn’t been on T in the past given that it’s an anabolic steroid).

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SolasAnla · 15/08/2022 23:21

IsItShining · 15/08/2022 23:04

‘allowing transgender athletes to compete raises serious health and safety concerns’ might also arise in their own sex class. Transwomen with reduced testosterone might be uncompetitive with other male boxers, and transmen on testosterone might pose an increased risk to unmedicated female boxers.

Females on testosterone would be excluded from female competitions on doping grounds so even if the argument is classify by sex, these females would be excluded.
Where as for males being uncompetitive would be a qualifications issue so they could still try to compete, but the risk of Osteoporosis etc. would be a H&S risk.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 15/08/2022 23:33

On one hand,that’s good news. On the other hand, no shit, Sherlock! I (and many others) figured that out years ago before women were injured in the ring!

deeperthanallroses · 16/08/2022 00:06

Every other sport reviewing this managed to say people who identify as trans can compete in their sex category as long as they meet anti doping rules etc. this is terribly drafted surely, did no one proof read it??

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2022 00:08

Better late than never.

(Though reading section 5, can't help wondering why they don't also think "shit, WTF do we allow head punches at all?"Confused)

oviraptor21 · 16/08/2022 00:13

Aside from the overall message which I of course agree with, I'm astonished that a statement with so many (let's be kind) typos is posted on the website of a professional organisation.