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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cathy Boardman - another lecturer treated badly

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JanieAllen · 14/08/2022 09:52

I am taking private HE institute BIMM Ltd to tribunal for unfair dismissal and discrimination
Essentially, I have been fired for doing my job, and for doing what management asked (not discussing trans issues in lectures). Having a focus on women in a lecture on sex and gender was deemed trans exclusionary and sparked a campaign against me by a small cohort of students.

I have also twice raised issues of sexism to staff; once around popular culture, once about a member of staff and a safeguarding concern.
Who even is this woman?
I am a woman, a mother, and a feminist, and until recently I taught cultural studies to music students. I care deeply about women’s rights, and believe that we cannot fight for our sex based rights if we cannot acknowledge that biological sex exists. This view is protected in law.
I don't think people should
be constrained by gendered expectations. Girls can play football (go Lionesses!), boys can play with dolls. I also empathise with those who feel that they don't fit in with society’s restrictive gender rules, as this is something I experience and would have likely identified as non-binary if I were a teenager today.
I am now 43 years old, a lesbian, proudly female, and the mother of beautiful sons (I am the only one who likes football).

OK, what did she do?
The job of a cultural studies lecturer is to encourage students to think. We present them with ideas, theories, and try to equip them with the skills to challenge these theories in an academically sound way. We ask them to critically evaluate what we loftily term ‘cultural texts’ (mainly music in this case, but also social media phenomena, hairstyles, fashion, mainstream media, etc.) in light of these theories, and - crucially - to create their own arguments, challenge these from various perspectives to form their own ideas, standpoints, and opinions. So far so standard academic practice right?
It is also important to define the terms we use. To this end I define the terms ‘sex’ and ‘gender’. I state that sex is biological, it is immutable, and that gender is the set of expectations associated with each sex (Harvard referenced of course). These expectations and norms change through time and place. I state this for clarity, as the words are often used interchangeably. I remind students throughout the year that any theoretical or potentially ambiguous terms they use in their essays should be clearly defined, and used consistently.
This had me branded transphobic. Students trawled through my Facebook, looking for fuel for the fire, and found a post in which I had said that I did not think it was fair that a biological male could compete in women’s weightlifting, but that women of colour were not allowed to use swimming caps designed for Afro hair. I did not call Hubbard a man, but a ‘biological male’, which is accurate.
Management had asked me to not discuss transgender issues with students, which I had not. In fact, it was not talking about this, but focussing on women, that led to the student campaign. Both the course leader and Principal said that our students were not intellectually equipped to deal with gender issues critically. I find that insulting to the students. Crowdfunders for students’ double mastectomies are endorsed by BIMM, yet those in charge do not believe that they are critically equipped to consider whether this is a good idea. Where is the duty of care, particularly as more and more detransitioners are coming forward, angry at having been let down by adults who should have been watching out for them?
Why is this important? I believe students should be able to think, and that limiting discussion is limiting them. Blocking critical thought is anti-education and a disservice to young people.
Another part of cultural studies is to pose questions. Towards the end of a session on sex and gender, the week after a lecture on race and racism, I asked students to consider blackface and drag. Why was one deemed as acceptable and one very much not? Students were invited to consider this, and other topics raised in the lecture, to discuss in seminars. There was not a great deal of interest, but some thought drag was sexist, one trans student said that drag was seen as transphobic, most did not have strong opinions either way. At the time I had not made my own mind up about it.
This, along with saying in the staff room a year later that I found drag sexist (not proselytising, I was asked about a drag show), was presented to me as part of my ‘perceived trans-exclusionary views’, when the Principal told me about the campaign in which a small group of students was ‘out to get’ me. He brought up the case of Kathleen Stock, who had suffered years of bullying and harassment, including death and rape threats. He stated clearly that if that happened to me, he and the organisation would not support me.
He refused to discuss what I had said, or explain why it was seen as trans exclusionary. The students waging the campaign were invited to talk to me so that I could hear their side, as was the staff member who complained. Nobody did, so I was in the Kafka-esque position of being told I had done something wrong and had to change, but with a refusal to tell me what or why.
Anything else?
Sadly yes. A student came to me who felt she could not access student support as the male member of staff allocated to support her was sharing naked videos and photos of himself on social media where he is linked to students. I made the deputy safeguarding lead aware of this, as I felt it was the right thing to do. I have been sacked, the student has been expelled. As far as I am aware, the man is still uploading sexual images, and still in post.
I do not have union support so have no choice but to crowdfund to pay my legal fees. BIMM’s treatment of me contravenes their own policies on bullying, harassment and victimisation, as well as academic freedom, freedom of speech and my protected beliefs under the Equality Act 2010.

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GCAcademic · 14/08/2022 12:35

DrEllie · 14/08/2022 12:31

Can I ask why UCU aren't supporting you? I realise this has happened to other women academics and if they are refusing to support you that is very troubling

If there’s any hint of an accusation of transphobia, UCU is more likely to join, nay lead, the witch hunt than offer any support.

GCAcademic · 14/08/2022 12:38

To give an example, UCU’s actions played a large role in Kathleen Stock leaving Sussex.

ickky · 14/08/2022 12:38

I'm interested in this situation if there is literally ANY way a woman can be in the right? Speak about trans issues - going against a clear management directive not to (presumably because of the silencing tactics used and their fear of these), not talking about them = transphobia according to students.

There IS no right way. It is the modern equivalent of witch dunking. If she floats, she's a witch, if she drowns, she wasn't. There is no way to win.

blahblahblahspoons · 14/08/2022 12:41

I wonder how many female members have been lost by UCU because of the toxic environment they've created for women? I know one female academic who left as a result of their actions wrt Stock.

blahblahblahspoons · 14/08/2022 12:54

ickky · 14/08/2022 12:38

I'm interested in this situation if there is literally ANY way a woman can be in the right? Speak about trans issues - going against a clear management directive not to (presumably because of the silencing tactics used and their fear of these), not talking about them = transphobia according to students.

There IS no right way. It is the modern equivalent of witch dunking. If she floats, she's a witch, if she drowns, she wasn't. There is no way to win.

Exactly, and in this situation, any woman in a job where sex matters or needs to be discussed cannot keep her head down and self censor as Varoty would prefer.

There simply is no way to know what is the 'right' thing to do and what will be deemed wrongthink. I suspect being a woman capable of critical thought is enough to be called a bigot in many circumstances.

Thank goodness for the courage and resilience of modern day suffragettes Maya Forstarter and Allison Bailey. Without them we'd all be in even bigger trouble.

Skinterior · 14/08/2022 12:56

Affiliated to Sussex, surprise surprise.

JanieAllen · 14/08/2022 12:56

I can exclusively reveal I am not Cathy....

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CathyBoardman · 14/08/2022 13:04

JanieAllen · 14/08/2022 12:56

I can exclusively reveal I am not Cathy....

That's not an exclusive, I beat you to it!

SpinCityBlues · 14/08/2022 13:11

blahblahblahspoons · 14/08/2022 12:41

I wonder how many female members have been lost by UCU because of the toxic environment they've created for women? I know one female academic who left as a result of their actions wrt Stock.

I'm not paying them or any other union to persecute me, put it that way.

SpinCityBlues · 14/08/2022 13:18

Hello, @CathyBoardman lovely to meet you on here.

This is just so awful:

A student came to me who felt she could not access student support as the male member of staff allocated to support her was sharing naked videos and photos of himself on social media where he is linked to students. I made the deputy safeguarding lead aware of this, as I felt it was the right thing to do. I have been sacked, the student has been expelled. As far as I am aware, the man is still uploading sexual images, and still in post.

I'd have been sacked for the behaviour of 'naked video tutor' in a heartbeat when I was an academic. Suspended with immediate effect followed by a rapid investigation around gross misconduct.

Is this nonsense happening at the Brighton campus, perchance?

ChagSameachDoreen · 14/08/2022 13:52

Everyone knows you have to keep quiet

We refuse to keep quiet. We're not cowards.

ickky · 14/08/2022 14:13

CathyBoardman · 14/08/2022 13:04

That's not an exclusive, I beat you to it!

😂

Namerchangerextraordinaire · 14/08/2022 14:34

Varoty · 14/08/2022 10:02

Honestly if people are still dumb enough to speak about this publicly then they deserve the consequences. Everyone knows you have to keep quiet or the bullies will destroy your life. Also how were students able to access her Facebook? Again, stupid for not setting privacy on her account.

This is how evil wins, when good women are too afraid to stand up & be counted.

They can only win if people let them, because transideology is built on foundations of nothing but wishful thinking, buttressed by bullying, emotional blackmail & death threats.

If you won't speak up for women & children, at least stop blaming the victim for being abused, place the blame on gender ideologists & their followers, where it belongs.

spirit20 · 14/08/2022 14:38

Can you provide more details about the incident with the male lecturer and the student. Were the photos actually sexually explicit photos showing genitals (as opposed to a shirtless photo on a beach etc.)?
Why was the lecturer linked with a student on social media - did she add him or did he add her? Although even if she added him, he shouldn't have accepted her?

dropthevipers · 14/08/2022 14:44

Varoty · 14/08/2022 10:20

No you shouldn’t have to self censor. Yes your beliefs are protected in law. That won’t stop these people from persecuting and destroying you, and even threatening to kill you. You are putting yourself and your family at risk if you speak up on this topic.

You have a choice. Either live in fear and go along with patent nonsense for a quiet life, or recognise these nutters as being every bit as fanatical as Hitler and his gang and that their ideas and notions need killing with fire.

jlpartnerrs · 14/08/2022 14:46

I am a mother with a child at BIMM, I shall be following this thread/action and gardening - this is very concerning for me.

I also wonder whether the union is in breach of their contract to you - people join unions for collective bargaining and employment representation, is it about time they were reminded of what you pay your dues for?

GCBookseller · 14/08/2022 15:25

@CathyBoardman Is there proof of the inappropriate photos of this other person? It won’t help your case mentioning this if there’s no proof.

PrimAndProperViperish · 14/08/2022 15:42

Would letters to the BIMM help, at all?

Thank you for standing up. Every woman who is brave enough to refuse to be silenced or cowed by bullies helps a dozen more.

CathyBoardman · 14/08/2022 15:49

@GCBookseller Yes there is evidence of that.

I honestly don't think that he meant any harm, that he thought he was being arty.

I do not want to malign him, my criticism is with the institutions response, and my reporting it is listed as a reason for my dismissal.

VestofAbsurdity · 14/08/2022 15:58

Varoty · 14/08/2022 10:20

No you shouldn’t have to self censor. Yes your beliefs are protected in law. That won’t stop these people from persecuting and destroying you, and even threatening to kill you. You are putting yourself and your family at risk if you speak up on this topic.

So take the craven cowards way? Yeah history has proven that to work out really fucking well hasn't it.

blahblahblahspoons · 14/08/2022 15:59

I've done quite a few safeguarding courses (in relation to school aged children so slightly different) but in each and every one it is meant to be the case that people should feel safe to raise safeguarding concerns - safeguarding (they say, repeatedly) is supposed to be for everyone. If people are scared that if they do so they will lose their job and the concern they've raised with the safeguarding lead used as a reason to dismiss them then they won't raise safeguarding concerns ever again.

It doesn't matter if the safeguarding concerns are totally wrong, safeguarding only works if people feel they can raise safeguarding concerns without censure or loss of job. (the idea is that the safeguarding lead will then conduct an investigation, gather evidence etc and it may well be the concerns are not confirmed, which is obviously fine, but the procedure needs to be followed).

The institution is failing if a safeguarding referral is a reason for dismissal and it doesn't actually matter whether the safeguarding concern was reasonable or valid (thought it sounds like it was to be honest, even if meant as 'arty' ).

Of course in the most horrendous real life safeguarding failures we have seen time and again that people have concerns but are scared to raise them. This is a problem.

I would say BIMM are failing safeguarding 101 if they actually used someone raising a safeguarding concern as a reason for dismissal. What a climate of fear there will be and no-one will want to raise even the most serious of safeguarding concerns. The poor students.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 14/08/2022 16:10

YetAnotherSpartacus · 14/08/2022 10:08

Google Catherine Boardman and crowd justice and you'll find it.

No luck with Catherine but I got it with Cathy Boardman.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 14/08/2022 16:38

GCAcademic · 14/08/2022 12:38

To give an example, UCU’s actions played a large role in Kathleen Stock leaving Sussex.

UCU is one of many trade unions that demand allegiance to the gender identity movement and will not support lifelong paying members who dare speak up for women.

GoodThinkingMax · 14/08/2022 18:07

Honestly if people are still dumb enough to speak about this publicly then they deserve the consequences. Everyone knows you have to keep quiet or the bullies will destroy your life. Also how were students able to access her Facebook? Again, stupid for not setting privacy on her account.

Yes, all those people speaking up for freedom of thought are just stupid.

And the clocks are striking thirteen.

PrimAndProperViperish · 14/08/2022 19:09

Varoty · 14/08/2022 10:02

Honestly if people are still dumb enough to speak about this publicly then they deserve the consequences. Everyone knows you have to keep quiet or the bullies will destroy your life. Also how were students able to access her Facebook? Again, stupid for not setting privacy on her account.

Thank you for articulating the quiet thought that most people think but won't say out loud.

Yes, most people are careful not to say anything out loud.
Yes, the activists involved in this movement are aggressive and sometimes dangerous.
Yes, women have had their reputations, careers and lives torn apart.
Yes, it's risky to speak up.

Most people when you speak to them know very well that it's not possible to change sex.

Yet most will also avoid saying this out loud.

It's why I am especially grateful for women like Cathy Broadford and all women who have spoken up despite personal risk.

It's not 'dumb', it's brave.

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