SNP accused of flouting court ruling to define biological men as women

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The campaign group For Women Scotland claimed Nicola Sturgeon’s administration was attempting to “redefine women yet again” by issuing transgender rules it says are “wholly incompatible” with a landmark court victory, which it won only five months ago.

The feminist organisation was backed by Scotland's top civil court in its claim that SNP legislation designed to increase the number of women on public boards was unlawful as it stated that anyone "living as a woman", regardless of their biological sex, would count as female.

However, the Scottish Government has issued new statutory guidelines which state transgender women should still be counted as female in the workplace quotas, so long as they hold a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC).

For Women Scotland says the SNP’s latest position does not comply with the Court of Session ruling, which found that Holyrood had overstepped its powers by effectively redefining the meaning of sex, to include biological men.

“It is extraordinary that once again women are facing the daunting task of funding another judicial review to defend our name in law,” Trina Budge, a director at For Women Scotland, said.

“The Government seems incapable of either abiding by a court order, or understanding that the definition of woman does not include any males."

Full article - archive.ph/OWZdE

Statement from FWS explaining why they are going back to court - forwomen.scot/18/07/2022/judicial-review-2/

"Why would I listen to the opinion of someone who supports organisations that advocate for child abuse and the corrective rape of lesbians."

Nutty as squirrel poo. 😂😂😂

So is telling female homosexuals they need to date males or they are sexual racists. But you do you @Hearach15

It's funny because my two best mates who are the forgotten L part of the LGBT are horrified by the current trend to trans the gay away. They both are horrified by the misogyny of the current trend and what might have happened to them if they'd been younger now.

Many lesbians including my best mates are furious about being referred to as sexual racists by Nancy Kelley of stonewall. The lesbophobia is off the scale.

Yes. They’d have been encouraged to transition. It’s conversion therapy by another name. And I find it batshit crazy that a supposed LGBT organisation is supporting this travesty.

The Yougov survey the other day was pretty damning. At least they only concentrated on the drop in support for trans rights, I think the forced teaming of LGB and T has really been bad for LGB people. The two factions have nothing in common, but T realised without the LGB, there would be no support. The survey proved it

It's really quite astonishing isn't it? As is the assumption that people disagreeing with this horrific misogynistic ideology has any LGBT people as part of their social circle. 🙄

I agree. Stonewall has a lot to answer for.

There's a few that I've heard of. There's a regular poster on here who does fantastic posts about the difficulties she's facing at her workplace because funding is so contingent on being 'trans inclusive'.

There's this interesting piece by FWS - forwomen.scot/29/12/2019/funding-conditions/

And of course, who can forget the dead rat nailed to the doorway of Vancover Rape Crisis.

Yeah. We’re not the ones living in echo chambers and bubbles. I think that survey results was a huge shock to yougov. And there was no way to positive spin it. It’s all the sunlight I think. Shows up every crack and stain

They had to go through and delete a lot of comments about fairness in women's sports labelled as being anti trans. Was so revealing. They could not spin the results to suit their ideology.

It was very revealing. I think the gender ideologists are starting to realise that people are starting to notice. It’s why they tried to rush everything through as fast as possible. Unfortunately women git in the way by saying no. I think that’s where a lot of the hate towards women comes from. We were supposed to be too stupid to notice, then too nice to protest.

You can’t get government funding in Scotland as a charity unless you include the T in everything

womens aid England decided not to include the T or give them separate places.

womens aid Scotland. Followed the money.

rape crisis Scotland follwed the money
Edinburgh rape crisis well we all know that one

I do think it's interesting now that the people I know that work in third sector organisations who would have been retweeting everything stonewall are now utterly silent about trans issues on their Twitter feeds. They can see the way the wind is blowing.

There's a brilliant quote by someone on Twitter (unfortunately I can't remember who) who says -

'You banked your entire political strategy on the thought that women were too busy, too stupid, too compliant, too powerless and too despised by this society to do anything to stop you. Big. Fucking. Mistake'.

Absolutely spot on!

We have seen this in action...trying to start a feminist book shop crafting/ book club/ meeting space...no chance of a grant or any help without the T.

for me, the one thing that shows the utter utter misogyny of this is that all these shelters which exclude TW, would include TM, but no one ever thinks of that. So they would be trans inclusive, just not in the way the TRA want. It’s as if TM are forgotten, or not considered. Wonder if it’s because they’re female?

⭐️
It was Jane Clare Jones

mobile.twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1491893916257370118

Thank you!

Oh dear…. Are we again seeing the same arguments from posters with a very deep prejudice that lacks evidence?

I wonder if a number of them read Shonagh Dillon's PhD thesis and realised that some rather worrying things have been happening with third sector data and Stonewall's research.

The second finding, the one that during the data collection period surprised me most, relates to the participants I interviewed that also took part in the Stonewall Research. This research undertook interviews with 15 professionals from 12 national umbrella bodies and frontline services in the MVAW sector: reporting gender reform would have no impact.

I interviewed a third of the same participants and my findings were quite different, you can go straight to chapter 6, (The Impact) p.201, if you want to skip to this part of my research, but for a sneak preview here are a few of the participant’s quotes…

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4287881-Congratulations-Shonagh-Dillon-for-Defending-Your-PhD-TERF-Bigot-Transphobe-We-found-the-witch-burn-her?msgid=108769551

So many straight people pontificating on lesbians today disappearing. It's not happening. They are not being "transed". Lesbians like girls. Full stop. They are happy with their gender, so they dont seek to change. They dont need to be "transed" and are not being so. Its a fundamental out of touch with how the younger generation are expressing themselves. This thread is so typical of the older folks expressing their distates on how the younger generation are living their lives - as was done to us previously. Its a whole cycle of human development.

I love how the kids of today are doing what they should be - and smashing the old systems and patriarchy and status quo.

So proud of them.

As Judith Butler said this week - what we are seeing is a reaction from the older folk to reverse all diversity and liberation gains back to 50s values. That is what we need to fight! Love Judith - a real women's liberation hero, calling it for what it is. But nah, some people will not reflect on being used as a pawn by the patriarchy. Sigh.

50s values? Just how old would a woman today need to be to wish to return to the 50s values they used to know? 70s at least.
What a load of ageist claptrap.

Judith Butler. 😂😂😂😂 No.