Daily Wire & Matt Walsh ripoff Posie Parker design to fund more of their pro-life BS

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I'm absolutely fuming, stealing money that was funding women's campaigning.

The Proud Boys offered to protect Ngo because his views aligned with their own and they thought it would be necessary for his safety.

And presumably his views do not 'align' with the Proud Boys, hence him turning them down.

Lots of people think very odd things about other people; that has absolutely no bearing on said person.

This isn't even 'guilt by association' - it's 'guilt by Tommy Robinson shops in the same ASDA as your mum'.

I mean, look. Here's how that would work:

<clears throat>

'I think Owen Jones is the absolute bees knees - I love his cheeky wee cherubic face and his ideas about women's rights, and we share all the same worldviews. He's clearly on the same page as feminists. Yay Owen! I'm a GC adult human female and I love you and everything you say!'

Now, are you going to go and cancel Owen because some random, anonymous person on Mumsnet posted that they are on his side?

(Owen, if anyone actually does try to cancel you for this, I can only apologise in advance; this is a thought experiment and I'm not impugning you in any way, just demonstrating a point).

Journalists who try to be independent of big corporate outlets are increasingly important, imo. And Ngo fits that profile.

I don't think good journalists are really partisan, by temperament. They are, fundamentally, skeptics and even a little cynical at times. Which has downsides as a personality type but is put to good use in journalism.

Just for a little window on where the attitude that wrong-think journalism is illegitimate, Justin Trudeau has for some time, as PM of Canada, been unwilling to answer questions from news organizations he considers to be practicing the wrong kinds of journalism, whatever they ask him. It's a bit of a slippery slope.

Finding Women's campaigning? not so sure, it is a limited company which describes its business as clothing sales with PPKJK as the sole director

And?

Standing for Women has never been presented as anything else. Everyone can see that at least some of the monies raised are spent on campaigning (billboards aren’t free,, nor is Posie’s travel).

by flogging merch rather than soliciting donations Posie is able to run it as a small business (rather than fannying about as an org with a committee and a vote on every decision). She’s now paying a small staff rather than forcing her children into packing tees for pocket money. Making SFW a limited company means it’s possible to pay others a wage. It’s a good thing.

like Posie or loathe her, you can’t pretend her way of operating is some sort of dark secret ready for to be revealed - she talks about how SFW works in 95% of her videos, for starters.

Just reading back over this thread. I remember the uproar over Ngo hanging out with The Proud Boys, while everyone totally ignored that he used to hang out with Antifa as well, before they started trying to kill him - because he was trying to infiltrate them and find out how they organised etc. No one ever said he had the same values as Antifa for it.

As for Posie's t-shirts. So what? She does important work and makes some cash out of it too, meh!

Well said!

I also appreciate her business ethics in:

• paying her workers over and above the minimum wage rather than defaulting to the bare minimum required by law
• striving to source products from UK manufacturers, which might be more expensive but stands less chance of inadvertently exploiting child-labour in sweat-shops overseas
• being picky about quality and proud of it, ensuring that her supporters get real value for money rather than cheap tat that does not stand the test of time
• making a real effort to provide a range of designs, fit and sizes to accommodate women's shapes and preferences
• being as responsive to suggestions for new products as she is both innovative and quick to capitalise on emerging themes

If she had not dedicated herself to a cause and ploughing back profits into campaigning she has the business and marketing acumen to be making herself a small fortune as an "enlightened capitalist".

I also find it proper annoying that women’s rights activists are almost expected to offer their services for free in a way that others aren’t. Does anyone think Jolly-on runs the Good (sick) Law Project for free for example? Windmills aren’t cheap you know. How much does the CEO of LGBT charity/lobby group get paid?

For any of this New Wave of Second Wave Women’s Right’s activism to be successful long term some women need to be able to extract at least a small wage for the work (preferably a competitive wage that reflects their abilities and experience).

The women at Sex Matters, Fair Play for Women and yes, Standing for Women (and many others) all initially volunteered for the fight but nonetheless should be remunerated for their time as much as possible. It’s just not sustainable activism otherwise (and goddess knows if we take our eyes off the ball for a second something else happens).

Posie decided to raise funds for her own costs, for a small staff and for her own future headline grabbing activism by flogging merch rather than via crowdfunding. As it happens a lot of her merch is iconic enough to spawn cooy cats, hence the original subject of this newly resurrected zombie thread.

I don’t know if Posie pays herself a wage or not but if she doesn’t then she absolutely bloody should. Her time is not worth less than anyone else’s and it’s not as if she didn’t put plenty of time in at the coal face for free first.

I don’t even wear t shirts (although I do have one of FPFW’s. red ones with the much discussed cartoon hand from Maya’s tribunal). Might put one of Posie’s on my Xmas list now…