Gender ID question in GP's survey

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Filling out a survey sent from my GP surgery about planning future services.

Where to start?!

Suggested answers please?

If you can put free text in I usually go with something like my sex is female and not everyone believes in the gender religion

Are you allowed multiple answers

Otherwise anyone ticking nine conforming to gender can't have their sex noted

Me too. Then I emailed them and asked exactly why they were asking such inane questions and for what ends?

Mine didn’t ask about any disabilities (actual or identified) or additional needs I may have. Just ma feelz…

Argh, this really fucking annoys me, especially coming from a healthcare setting! Female and Male are SEX classifications, not gender identities

No.

The categories are clumsy - but presumably part of this is to check that people aren’t missing out on necessary screening tests etc? If someone has transitioned then moved surgery the GP practice may not know they have male / female anatomy as the whole record is often reset so there’s a real risk of missing cervical screening, AAA etc.

Not that it affects the OPs answer but it's a really badly designed form. Now many transwomen describe themselves as 'female' so may tick the transgender female box whilst still being biological male. But GP surgery may understand them to be biological female.

This is what happens when you piss about with language

There's so much to address:

In planning medical services, sex is critically important.

I'm planning medical services, medical needs such as disabilities and chronic illnesses are the second reach of critically important characteristics.

Gather gender id info as a tertiary characteristic, as for the most part it will fall under customer relations. For a tiny minority it will affect physical or mental health.

The options mean absolutely nothing to people who are unaware of the ideology, and are downright offensive to people who do not believe in the ideology. And confusing even to those who do believe in it (or try to).

WTH are the 2nd and 3rd options anyway? A female who IDs as a transman, or a transwoman who IDs as a female?

Gobbledygook!

Is there a separate question about sex? (With two choices) if not then coming from a Drs surgery it’s bordering on negligence as they are failing to collect clear, medically informed information.

Id email and ask if they
intend to have similar kinds of questions about which Age and Ethnicity you identify with. Also as a PP said, why aren’t they asking about Disabilities?

bordering on negligence as they are failing to collect clear, medically informed information

Might go with this.

We had a survey with a similar question that said something like regarding sex and gender identity, which of the following best describes you?Options were male/ female / intersex / non binary / other. I put other and said my sex IS female but I don't have a gender Identity.

There was a further question along the lines of is this the same as your birth gender, to which I put prefer not to say.

Haven't had time to draft an email yet but it is just so mangled. Surely someone who is 'non binary' would be either male or female which for things like cervical screening or prostate cancer purposes is pretty important you'd think. And intersex has nothing to do with gender identity. I don't even know where to start but I do want to address it with the surgery.

It's so scary that health care is captured. The categories they've given you have become meaningless.

I'd only want to know about any possible gender identity if I were still in clinical work so I wouldn't be surprised at the baritone voice on the phone from someone whose name was listed as Bella.

But then you need to ask gender none conforming male and gender none conforming female

The NHS has been so totally captured by gender extremists that they're now incapable of producing factual questionnaires and producing accurate sex based data. Which of course is terrifying except to those disinterested in the appalling state of women's health care - and then it serves the purpose of covering up the dismal statistics.

Also poor grammar...

What is meant by transgender female? Is it a female who is transgender eg a transman? Or does it mean transwoman?

Do they define the terms anywhere. If male and female are genders how r they defining sex?

What does transgender male and transgender female mean. Because if you have ticked you identify with a male gender then you have already answered the question surely because male and female ars already identities.

Talk about complicating matters.

They need 1 question. What sex are you.

The question is asking about how one ‘identifies’. Not about biological reality. So if someone ticks ‘female’ there’s no guarantee that they are actually female, just that they feel they’re female.
I would expect there to be a question about what biological sex you are to ensure your correct sex is recorded, then if a question about gender was included, the options should also include a choice of ‘I do not have a gender identity’

Does this breach GDPR? They are collecting data that they cannot put to any use, therefore it is being collected needlessly.

I fear whatever word is uses to describe biological female / male will be appropriated by trans

A couple of years back female meant biological female now many transwomen say they are female. And no one is correcting them.

There is currently no reliable word to mean ' 'those humans who we used to call female' maybe AFAB but thats another insulting bastardisation of language implying sex is assigned and therefore easily reassigned.

I was filling out a form for my 6 year old DC for an allied health therapy.
The question was Gender: Male, Female, Other.
In the text box in Other, I put SEX = Female.
The return email was rainbow decorated and announced how they were alphabet allies…..
‘What hope does my DC have at receiving specific therapies to assist their development if the so-called medical professionals don’t know the difference between sex (biology) and gender (ideology)?

I was sent a similar one this week that only asked asked gender with a male and female option.

In the free text feedback box I said my gender is irrelevant and my healthcare needs are related to my biological sex and not everyone has a gender identity. Provision for sex specific healthcare like contraception, antenatal and postnatal care, menopause and certain cancer screening and care can only be planned if they collect data on facts rather than ideologies. I said that working in and being responsible for healthcare I expect them to be clear.

It can also be useful to ask questions. Ask them what a gender identity is. Ask them how you know what yours is. This generally exposes the issues quite quickly.

When faced with these type of questions I will choose 'other' and explain that I don't subscribe to gender as an ideology or some such, or that I don't feel 'gender identity' is a useful metric, etc. Basically speak up and make it known that these questions are offensive, nonsensical, harmful, not applicable, pointless, intrusive, or whatever adjective of choice you feel is relevant.

That's what I went with. It's a ridiculous question.