Fina stops transgender swimmers from competing in women's elite events

[Kendodd]

Common sense.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/swimming/61853450

No surprise there, the biological kind of women are of no consequence to Tom unless of course he wants the use of their reproductive capabilities to provide him with a child. If he believes there is no biological difference between TW and Women so TW should compete with Women it's funny how he never asked a TW to be the surrogate for his child. Tom Daley is just another misogynistic man.

Tom needs to take a "deep dive" into the evidence before opening his trap.

Tom “women are acceptable as long as their are surrogate wombs for my children” Daley

It’s a shame when someone I once liked and respected turns out to be about as bright as the jumper he once knitted.

Cross post re surrogacy

Tom “women are acceptable as long as their are surrogate wombs for my children” Daley

Aint that the truth

Did Rugby England ever publish the outcomes of their public consultation on their trans inclusion policy? Their position angered me so much I said in my response the sport deserved to be litigated into oblivion if they didn’t prioritise women’s safety, but that it would be preferable if they protected women from being seriously injured or killed in the first place.

Rugby Aussie rules and American football bodies are playing an extremely dangerous game here, far more so than athletics or swimming. It's bodily safety and lives at risk as well as fairness.

@BettyFilous I don’t know. I did a Google search and the document that comes up is the completely captured document from 2019. There is also a Stonewall statement from April 2021 expressing “disappointment”. Was that meant to be directed at World Rugby not England Rugby? Classic Stonewall inaccuracy it seems 🤣🤣.

Then an article from Sean Ingle, who is usually spot on, reporting that he was told England rugby would not enforce World Rugby’s policy.

I think of England Rugby had officially announced its intention to follow World Rugby’s guidance, we wouldn’t have missed the TRA toddler Twitter tantrum about it.

Next time a transwoman moans about this on TV or radio, I want the presenter to say "what is it you don't get about male advantage? Are you thick?" And "how ironic that you say you are a woman but you clearly don't give one shiny shit about women, or you would acknowledge the differences and stay out of their sports and spaces. Now get to fuck!"

So sick of the fawning and pandering to them by the media.. The shit that Sharron Davies has got from them and the energy and time she has had to expend fighting for the bleeding obvious.

They absolutely are. I don't play but I'm seething on behalf of the Women who are being put in potential danger. It is madness.

Good letter about FINA's decision and how it's based on science, in The Guardian today.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/05/finas-policy-on-trans-women-in-swimming-is-based-on-science-facts-and-human-rights?CMP=share_btn_tw

Three good letters.

Very good letters. I'm a bit surprised to see them being published in the Guardian. Another sign that maybe they're creeping back to that ethical journalism position they used to hold?

Rugby and Australian rules I think this meant to say. I think australia is hampered by the law, which may make any kind of no males or no females requirement illegal, it has to be demonstrated necessary and possibly this is only acceptable on a case by case basis for sport? (I’m not sure about this, but our discrimination act doesn’t have sex in it, not enough eyerolls) I do think aflw would be very aware of safety if/when the issue arises.
Junior rugby has size and weight max and min thresholds for each age range. Obviously teen boys and girls are not weight for weight comparable and I don’t know if this would mitigate any of the risk, the thresholds seem very wide and I imagine it’s trying to mitigate any extremely large Pacific Islander players causing a risk to the others at the upper thresholds, it would bump such a player up a team.

I think australia is hampered by the law, which may make any kind of no males or no females requirement illegal, it has to be demonstrated necessary and possibly this is only acceptable on a case by case basis for sport?

According to this article, you absolutely can discriminate on the basis of sex:

Australian 1984 Sex Discrimination Act (Part II, Div. 4: 42 – Sport): ‘(1) Nothing in Division 1 or 2 renders it unlawful to discriminate on the ground of sex, gender identity or intersex status by excluding persons from participation in any competitive sporting activity in which the strength, stamina or physique of competitors is relevant.’