They silenced Joan Collins

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On Piers Morgan Uncensored, Joan Collins was asked what a woman is and she said she can’t answer that question, she doesn’t want to get cancelled by the trans community.

Ouch. When you’ve cowed one of the most famous, beloved women in the world into silence, is it time to fess up that gender ideology does actually oppress women and compromise their ability to talk about their own bodies?

She did answer.
She gave a very clear answer.
Clever of her. She made it clear what she thinks about biology and the influence TRAs currently have.

I wouldn't say that she was silenced at all! I
Don't think she could have given and clearer or better answer. Clever woman. There are lots of us 😉

No, I didn’t miss the point. It shouldn’t be controversial. Clearly she is making the point that she can’t say it because of aggressive activists, but nobody should need to make that point at all.

Agree. She knows how to say it all by saying less. Well done Joan. What a legend.

Nicely played Joan.

I love Joan. She said she was horrified when she hit puberty and tried to hide her burgeoning body under baggy jumpers and go to the football with her dad. Then realised the power of a woman and embraced her assets.

I’d never really had her pegged as a feminist icon until she got together with Percy. Asked by some interviewer or other
‘But Joan, what about the age gap?’ she replied with a shrug
‘If he dies, he dies’.
Total Legend.

Did she? Hahahah LOVE HER. What a QUEEN.

They shouldn't need to, you are right.

But we aren't dealing with what we shouldn't have to do. We're dealing with the current state of things and it's important that as many people as possible draw attention to the ridiculousness of it.

She doesn’t give a fuck…saying less is saying more….she completely got her point across without getting any aggro….clever lady

‘We're dealing with the current state of things and it's important that as many people as possible draw attention to the ridiculousness of it.’

I agree. I am.

She got her point across whilst also highlighting the bullying cancel culture driven by TRAs , which is just as important as highlighting the biological facts, without providing them any sound bites for their bandwagon.
I thought it was a very astute way of answering.

She's 89! I'm really disappointed in her.

Good point. It really is.

Very clever answer, makes the main point which is the vicious aggressive misogyny behind the trans ideology. Which no woman is safe from.

Well done Joan. Very nicely done.

Does she live in the US? It's bad here but it's definitely worse over there in terms of women not being able to speak freely. Celebrities and people in positions of power seem much more frightened to speak out over there.

You've only got to see all the crap about 'birthing bodies' or whatever when talking about abortion. Which as a descriptor instead of 'women' would have been very painful for me when going through infertility - but obviously infertile women don't matter only transfolks of a certain sex (not the female one). It makes me laugh how 'inclusivity' is only ever to males. I bet there are far more women who've suffered infertility to whom 'birthing bodies' would be triggering than there are transpeople to whom 'women' is triggering or offensive in the context of talking about biology. But obviously women's feelings don't matter.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the extent to which women are silenced by the traliban and the extent to which their rights are being rolled back goes hand in hand. If you can't describe women as a sex class it makes it much more difficult to fight against abortion bans.

No, I can’t blame her for wanting to take that on at 89.

Thanks WandaWomblesaurus for the Audible recommendation!

I think that I'd a great answer!

Never thought I'd ever be quoting Ronan Keating but as he said - you say it best when you say nothing at all.
Not only did Dame Joan get across what a woman is but she also spelled out the danger for a woman, even one as famous as her, of getting on the wrong side of TRAs.

Neatly done, Dame Joan. What a Queen she is [heart eyes]

I don't blame her, at get age it's not her fight.

Had I been her I would have probably gone with.

"I can't be seen to speak for anyone else other than myself you understand Piers, but...(hand flourish both sides up and down torso area) this...this Piers is a woman".

Would that have worked in keeping everyone happy? Or rather could anyone have been offended if she'd done that?

She's amazing, and agree she got the point across excellently. Her women's hour interview is brilliant. She is a strong women and always fought against sexism in the industry.

Wise old vixen.

I came here to say this

She has played it very clever 👏

Traliban - love that. Needs a hashtag on Twatter.