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ACLU to intervene in lawsuit from female inmates, claims males and females are not biologically different

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ScreamingMeMe · 13/05/2022 19:08

ACLU Claims “Males, Females” Do Not Exist: Court Docs

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Anna Slatz
May 12, 2022

The American Civil Liberties Union is intervening in a lawsuit launched by four female inmates who were subjected to abuse at the hands of trans-identified male transfers. In the intervention, the ACLU claims that human beings are “not sexually dimorphic,” and that males have no biological differences from females.

In November of 2021, the Women’s Liberation front (WoLF) launched a lawsuit against the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) in response to the state’s transfer of male inmates to women’s prisons. In the suit, WoLF included representation for four female inmates currently incarcerated in the state who had experienced violations of their rights at the hands of male inmates who had been transferred under SB-132, one of which was sexually assaulted by a trans-identified male transfer.

SB-132, or the Transgender Respect, Agency, and Dignity Act, went into effect in January of 2021, and allowed male inmates to seek transfer to women’s prisons on the basis of self-declared gender identity. Male inmates did not have to be on hormones, have surgery, be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, or even have legal documents supporting their transgender status in order to gain transfer.

But the ACLU has now filed a motion to intervene in the suit, claiming the state of California cannot adequately represent their interests against WoLF, and that they must join in to defend SB-132.

But in the motion, filed on May 9 in the Fresno District Court, the ACLU not only rejects the details in WoLF’s suit, it also makes some bold assertions — including that “males” and “females” do not exist.

“Proposed Intervenors deny that ‘men as a class’ are defined and differentiated from ‘women as a class’ by their ‘anatomy, genitalia, physical characteristics, and physiology,'” the ACLU writes, going on to state that they “deny the allegation” that there are anatomical, genital, and physical characteristics that differentiate men from women.

The ACLU also claims that human beings are not sexually dimorphic, and there are no reproductive systems, hormones, or chromosomes which result in differences between males and females.

Speaking to Reduxx, WoLF legal director Lauren Adams expressed a mix of confusion and amusement at the ACLU’s claims in the filing. But rather than seeing it as an obstacle, Adams says there is opportunity that bodes well for WoLF’s position.

“The ACLU is suggesting that the state of California is not going to adequately represent their position because some officials don’t agree with the policy… to that, I would say: well, yeah! Once people find out what the policy is, they largely don’t support it,” she says, continuing: “The officials likely recognize they cannot keep women safe while successfully implementing the policy.”

Adams says the ACLU’s intervention may be the result of a concern that the state might be more inclined to protect incarcerated women than trans-identified males.

“I think the fact that the state is even saying that they care about the women’s safety is a threat to the ACLU. They joined in to make sure that there was at least one party in the case that didn’t care about women at all.”

Adams says that the ACLU often leverages their argument for transferring men into women’s institutions on the basis of a claimed risk of victimization while in a men’s institution, something Adams believes opens the door to an argument that they are also at a higher risk of perpetration.

“If you are saying this group has a risk of victimization, we can say the group also has a risk of perpetration. In the federal system, one-third of the substantiated prison rape complaints include a victim who was a sex offender. That is, in fact, the single biggest risk factor of being a victim of prison rape in male prisons.”

Adams notes that, despite ample evidence to the contrary, the ACLU denies that sex offenders were disproportionately represented amongst trans-identified male inmates, a claim that is easy to debunk.

“One-third of the requests for transfer from men’s prisons to women’s prisons include an inmate who had been convicted of a sex offense,” Adams says, noting that the figures are similarly stark in the federal prison system, where 48% of trans-identified male inmates were imprisoned on a sex offense.

“Ultimately what we are dealing with is a complete denial of reality,” Adams says, “The ACLU along with every person on this planet knows what men and women are, and what makes them different. Their denial of this fact in order to validate the identities of male offenders is embarrassing.”

WoLF is expected to file their response to the ACLU’s intervention by May 31.

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CloudPine · 13/05/2022 19:14

America is lost.

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viques · 13/05/2022 19:23

Good grief. Do these people never take their clothes off and look?

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MarmaRell78 · 13/05/2022 19:31

I am agog. How utterly ridiculous

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VestofAbsurdity · 13/05/2022 19:33

FFS is all I can muster.

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BreatheAndFocus · 13/05/2022 20:37

Did Strangio claim there was no such thing as biological sex? I lose track amongst all the idiocy.

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littlbrowndog · 13/05/2022 20:40

Well why did Strangio change their body if there is no such thing as a male or female body.

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ScreamingMeMe · 13/05/2022 21:16

littlbrowndog · 13/05/2022 20:40

Well why did Strangio change their body if there is no such thing as a male or female body.

Isn't that a head-scratcher.

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1Week · 13/05/2022 21:38

It's awful to see how the ACLU have fallen

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ScreamingMeMe · 13/05/2022 21:40

1Week · 13/05/2022 21:38

It's awful to see how the ACLU have fallen

It is. They used to believe in free speech and legal representation for ALL. Now they are just so agenda-driven.

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C8H10N4O2 · 13/05/2022 21:42

Also from the ACLU via Janice Turner

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1525213231723192323

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zanahoria · 13/05/2022 21:52

ACLU is now completely Orwellian

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notanicepersonapparently · 13/05/2022 21:54

So babies really are found under a gooseberry bush?

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zanahoria · 13/05/2022 21:57

I actually find it hard to read this stuff.

It is offensive on so many levels and basically just makes me feel ill

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SnotMikeUpPuffedHe · 13/05/2022 22:02

WoLF is expected to file their response to the ACLU’s intervention by May 31

I imagine it will take all their restraint for the response to be anything other than pages of cry-laughing emojis.

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GertrudeKerfuffle · 13/05/2022 22:08

America will soon be identifying as Gilead Confused

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pansexualanteater · 13/05/2022 22:09

Jesus fuck.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 13/05/2022 22:11

This is just so totally bizarre. And some people truly believe this?

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nothingcomestonothing · 13/05/2022 22:19

Right side of history? Wrong side of reality.

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nauticant · 13/05/2022 22:33

Look at Janice Turner's follow-up tweet:

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1525214402827386882

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WalrusSubmarine · 13/05/2022 22:49

underneath: “America is having a nervous breakdown”.

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BobBobBobbing · 13/05/2022 23:01

FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

I wish I could be more eloquent but I'm too fucking tired of the gas lighting. We all know there's a difference between men and women. And we all know who gets the shitty end of the stick.

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nepeta · 13/05/2022 23:09

I would love to know who sets the tone in the new ACLU. Is it Strangio or is he just the face of it? Is all this because of some major donor's wishes?

But why is Amnesty going exactly the same way? I think young people don't see certain kinds of bigotry, don't see the fragility of women's gains (so very recent they are,too), and really believe that most women in the Western world (which would be white women) are privileged and have always been that way, and should begin to hand over some of their unearned privileges (single sex facilities, being called woman because female, places on women's shortlists, stipends intended to remedy past sex discrimination etc.).

I recently saw some young person write on social media that "White cishet women are not discriminated against at all! Maybe ten years ago, but not now."

This made me realise how ahistorical their world is, how ten years is an eternity etc. I don't think education on the history of women as a sex is taught much at all, and most people are unaware of the statistics on men's higher earnings etc.

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Rheia1983 · 13/05/2022 23:11

How on earth did the ACLU end up being reality denying buffoons?

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Neverreturntoathread · 13/05/2022 23:16

🙈 This kind of crap is why Trump will get elected again.

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1Week · 13/05/2022 23:25

Neverreturntoathread · 13/05/2022 23:16

🙈 This kind of crap is why Trump will get elected again.

I can see it.

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