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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gilead begins: domestic supply of infants

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WarriorNewAgain · 07/05/2022 19:38

The first thing I thought if when I heard roe v Wade was the impact on and creation of more jobs such as in social work, fostering and care.

The patriarchy exploits and makes money from womens bodies in a variety of ways.

BREAKING: In a brief re abortion, Supreme court Justices Amy Coney Barrett/Alito's Draft, said US needs a “domestic supply of infants” to meet needs of parents seeking to adopt - that those who would otherwise abort must be made to carry to term - giving children up for adoption.

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Gilead begins: domestic supply of infants
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Discovereads · 09/05/2022 15:05

Dr Gabor Mate ( medical Dr) has written on ADHD and does find a relationship between maternal stress, and stress in an infant’s life, and greater likelihood of ADHD symptoms.

Trauma doesn’t cause ADHD! His books simply blame parents (especially mothers) for a real medical condition. He even says that if you or your child do not have stressful lives but your child has ADHD anyway then you’re either in denial about stress or the child is hyper sensitive. He’s been long discredited for his theories.

Sue Gerhardt well known psychologist writes of damage to infants’ brains through emotional neglect, or general neglect.

I don’t dispute this, but we were talking about ADHD not psychiatric disorders due to child abuse (neglect is a form of child abuse.)

It is thought severe maternal stress can also make a child more likely to develop schizophrenia in adulthood.

The cause of schizophrenia is not known, but the current theories of a genetic component plus various biological and environmental factors all involve post birth factors. Not maternal stress of your mother while you were a fetus.

Discovereads · 09/05/2022 15:15

Gabor Mate also thinks that racism gives you asthma. He’s very fringe.

InvisibleDragon · 09/05/2022 15:22

Oh God, was just watching a film featuring Gabor Mate. He said something like "I find that people with cancer find it hard to express healthy anger." I'm still fuming (but at least I've expressed my anger healthily?)

Discovereads · 09/05/2022 15:41

@InvisibleDragon
Yes! Totally enraging. That is part of his “cancer personality” drivel that cancer is caused by having certain personality traits not by radiation, or viruses, or genetics which only pre-dispose you to cancer while you actually trigger it yourself. All those cancer patients gave themselves cancer because they couldnt express healthy anger or say no to social expectations and so on.

He’s like a faith healer in a sense. Saying if you change your life the way he says you should, you will be healed (or guaranteed to not get cancer).

Jellycatspyjamas · 09/05/2022 16:02

There’s a lot of cross over in the presentation of children with developmental trauma, ADHD and ASD, but they’re very separate things. While I think a more trauma informed perspective is important there’s a danger that everything becomes about trauma - which means children then get overlooked for issues that are about neurodiversity and don’t receive the support they need.

My DD has extensive developmental trauma, she’s also being assessed for ADHD, dyslexia, dyspraxia and dyscalcula. It can be tricky sorting out what’s about trauma and what’s down to neurodiversity and sometimes it doesn’t matter that much - but sometimes it really does.

I’ve long worried that some interpretation of the research around epigenetics and early trauma might be used as yet another stick to beat mothers with (eg didn’t get adequate ante natal care, didn’t have a good enough pregnancy, didn’t bond well enough).

Discovereads · 09/05/2022 16:55

I’ve long worried that some interpretation of the research around epigenetics and early trauma might be used as yet another stick to beat mothers with (eg didn’t get adequate ante natal care, didn’t have a good enough pregnancy, didn’t bond well enough).

@Jellycatspyjamas that is my worry also. And I think we are perfectly rational to worry because in past things women did or ate or even thought in pregnancy were blamed for the sex of the baby, birth defects, chronic illnesses, and so on.

Jellycatspyjamas · 09/05/2022 18:07

So women can be forced to continue a pregnancy they don’t want and can then be blamed for not doing it “right” and harming their child in the process - can’t bloody win!

turbonerd · 09/05/2022 18:08

are we back to the refrigerator-mothers causing autism again!
dr Mate sounds like a raving lunatic. Probably because he expresses himself in a patronizing and up-his-own-arse way too frequently.

what we are seeing in the US is the Endgame for the evangelical right. It looks depressingly like Putin’s Russia, and like the too far left.

It is sad to see, and even worse to live, I’m sure. But it has been gaining traction for quite some time.
what the antidote should be is not clear. Perhaps the breaking up of the Federation?

SapatSea · 10/05/2022 15:26

It's all chilling. BPAS are running a campaign about this issue with a petition to be sent to Liz Truss
bpas-campaigns.org/campaigns/roe-v-wade/
if you want to sign it.

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