Breaking: claims that the American Supreme Court will strike down Roe v. Wade

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extract from article tonight

Headline:

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.

The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.

“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”

Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.

Continues: Article on leaked draft opinion

Why would it be TRAs rather than, for instance, incels? They are much more likely to view it as their right to control what happens to women's bodies.

It won't matter if half the population vote for the democrats because half the states are so gerrymandered that will still let the republicans in and anyway the republicans have shown they don't respect elections.

The fight against the far right is a feminist issue. Always has been.

The white liberal woman is attacked on the left (her own side) for being white, and not giving enough of her political attention to the rights of people who are not white, including in particular males who identify as women (because they have to be centred in feminism, and if they’re not, the white liberal woman isn’t doing feminism right). So she does it ‘right’, and centres everyone but herself in her new ‘feminism’. It’s a thankless task but she persists.

The white conservative woman is attacked by the whole of the left for being white, and being religious, and being conservative, but mostly for being a woman. Despite not actually making up any sort of majority on the court, she is responsible for the whole thing. She is also attacked on the right for being female. It’s a thankless task, but she has no choice but to persist.

Meanwhile, it’s ALL women who suffer from this decision if it goes through. And it’s being made mostly by men.

You couldn’t make it up.

Not sure about this. Biden effectively, or arguably depending on your viewpoint, erased women's rights on his first day in office with the decree that allows self-ID.

Note there's never been such decree about access to abortion and women's bodily autonomy.

Biden is better than Trump. But so would a ham sandwich be, so it's not saying very much. On the other hand, I do see a gc wakening taking place in the US, too. I hope it's not too little and too late.

For women, both main parties offer nothing. Self-ID from the left, which means rapists freely accessing prisons and women's spaces etc, or no bodily autonomy from the right.

Biden, Obama, Clinton all could have done something about access to abortion. They never did. Then Biden cemented self-ID.

It's a woeful state of affairs for women in America.

What are they trying to achieve by doing this? The number of abortions won't reduce only the number of SAFE abortions will go down. Such a backwards step and yes dehumanising Women. Would women be prosecuted for going outside state to obtain abortion? I hope not.

This presumably also lets them overturn other stuff too? (Eg gay marriage?)

Who knew that by systemically removing women from feminism and centreing men instead, that rights that only affect women of the biological cunty kind would be under threat in the USA?

so many womens groups in the USA rushed to affirm that male women had life soooo much harder than actual women. They wanged women under the bus without a second thought

it’s appalling, it’s desperately sad but it is not remotely surprising because when you deny biological reality as mattering to women, this is where you end up

Well many said it, if you can't define women - now known as birthing bodies, you can't define rights. Dehumanise them and then they don't need any rights.

Birthing bodies = a vessel.

"The land of the free".
But only if you are male.

‘The number of abortions won't reduce only the number of SAFE abortions will go down.’

I have to say I disagree. Many women (including me, probably) might change aspects of their sexual behaviour if they knew safe abortion wasn’t an option. And that’s what motivates the American right: they want women chaste or married.

This decision will kill some women, but they don’t care about that.

This document makes me so angry. Removing the autonomy from women to make choices about their own bodies is authoritarian and regressive. The US is barely a democracy any more. How dare they do this?
Plus then blaming women for the decisions mostly men are taking.

Sadly not surprised by this. It's been known for a long time it was likely to happen eventually because of the legal weaknesses in Roe V Wade. This weakness has been used as a wedge issue for years by both parties.

It needs to be law that stems from legislation and politicians and not rely on court judgements. I don't know how you'd achieve that now though due to how divided politics is. The windows of opportunity were the Clinton era and Obama's first term.

The women's movement has been diluted and splintered too so in that respect it feels like a bigger hill to climb to fight back than the 70s, which was big enough. Also a biology denying left won't be able sensibly counteract thus shooting itself in the foot.

Then there's the issue of many women supporting the anti abortion movement whether that's due to personal conviction, religion, years of misleading propaganda or all three.

I think there's a chance the US will find it's way back from the polarised extremes we've been seeing, perhaps following decades of living with the consequences, but I don't know if it will happen in my lifetime.

According to Reddit, "it will hit poor women, young women, women of colour, and trans men the hardest".

I don't quite know how to put this, but isn't it funny that even in the midst of this awful news which impacts everyone, there's a special hierarchy victims you have to list if you want people on Reddit to care - an image of "just" older white women out there wouldn't win enough sympathy.

Shocking to hear on the radio that some states will make abortion illegal in all circumstances - including rape, incest and where the life of the mother is at risk. Others will allow abortion where the life of the mother is at risk, but not where the birth will make her disabled.
In Texas they've brought in a scheme where a woman who has an abortion can be sued by anybody - for "compensation". Devilish.

Many women (including me, probably) might change aspects of their sexual behaviour if they knew safe abortion wasn’t an option.

... Because women are raped because of aspects of their sexual behaviour 🙄

We can only hope this will be one of the catalyst moments which galvanise enough people to create real political pressure.

1 in 5 women have been raped or sexually assaulted, and 1 in 20 rapes result in pregnancy. Around half of all rape victims are under 18.

Abortion is an absolutely life saving service for these women. Without it they are at risk of death through unsafe backstreet abortion or suicide.

Abortion isn't some "luxury choice" it's a crucial need for women at their mist vulnerable.

There are elections in Nov and the Telegraph are reporting that this decision could damage the Republicans as up to70% of Americans polled opposed overturning Roe v Wade

The left has been happy to dangle women's rights over us, to say our rights are contingent upon not pissing them off. They don't want us to have rights, they want us grateful. They're the man who's secretly happy the world is so dangerous for women because we'll need their offer to walk us home, the man who's happy his wife earns less because she can't leave him.

Liberal feminists have have been cheerleaders for our rights dripping away because they worshipped the men who were doing it. Now the men they don't like are attacking us they think it's our fault. This is what happens when you invest your time in telling women we are privileged, that we have no common cause, that our rights are done (so we are stuck-up cis bitches if we don't move on to campaigning for everyone else). Perhaps all that time spent arguing for men to have smear tests and for leaflets to say 'pregnant people' could have been spent making actual women's rights secure.

A plague on both their fucking houses. I am done with the birthing body shit from people supposed to be standing up for women. Go fuck yourselves.

Feminism needs to get its act together. If people want to blame white women I America for everything, women are going to lose out,

Think about whom this benefits (the egregious striking down and the wedge issue of using intersectionalism to weaken feminism) and why.

What exactly is the issue with Trump, for you?

And people think feminism is "done" and we should be focussing on the poor oppressed transwomen.