Sturgeon at it again.

[Cismyfatarse]

I am speechless at the way in which legitimate concerns are being belittled and ignored in Scotland. Nicola Sturgeon hits a new low.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sturgeon-stands-firm-in-row-over-trans-rights-jjq05hdj8?shareToken=6e7506fd0b0f3f9413c653de18141662

I agree with the previous poster who said "follow the money". Ms Sturgeon is likely to have a sound financial reason for making this bizarre assertion, irrespective of her personal beliefs. And I wouldn't be surprised if the same applied to the disappointing former child prodigy Mhairi Black.

The SNP appear to be trying to put in rules for a country which functions the way they wish that country would, rather than the way that Scotland actually does function.

'[Sturgeon] spoke of “an assault that is worse than possibly any time in my lifetime on abortion rights” after Florida brought in a ban on most terminations after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
“These are the threats against women,” Sturgeon said.'

Tsk, tsk, Nicola. We don't use such exclusive language any longer. You should have said:

"These are the threats against menstruators"

Or perhaps
"These are the threats against people capable of pregnancy."

Or perhaps
"These are the threats against the reproductive rights of people."

“I do not believe that trans rights and women’s rights are or should in any way be in conflict and I will argue that case until my dying breath. And that, I think, is the basis on which we should try to progress this debate.”

You cannot do that if you cannot define 'woman' (or 'trans,' really).

Take sports. If 'woman' is an abstract identity, then it is perfectly fine to include trans women in women's sports, but then it would also be rational and logical to integrate all sports as 'an abstract identity' isn't a meaningful basis on which to segregate sports. It's the average biological body differences.

So if you use the latter definition of 'woman' (adult female human being), then there clearly IS some conflict between the demand for trans rights and the existing women's rights in sports.

Similar arguments apply in other instances, too.

She says this ..

'In an interview with The Times, Sturgeon refused to define the word “woman”, saying: “I’m not going to, I’m just not going to get into this debate at a level that’s about simplified and lurid headlines.”

And then this...

Sturgeon said strides had been taken to increase the number of women in elected office but “we’ve been going backwards in terms of the culture and how the public sphere feels for women”.

I mean.. what the fuck is she talking about?? She hasn't got a fucking clue..🙄.

I do not believe that trans rights and women’s rights are or should in any way be in conflict and I will argue that case until my dying breath. And that, I think, is the basis on which we should try to progress this debate.

But that's the whole bloody debate, Nicola. We can't 'progress a debate' by everyone else just capitulating to your view. Much as you might prefer it that way.

Feminists, and many other people for that matter, including the EHRC, are very clear that the problem is that there is a conflict of rights.

Oh my god, Mumsnet, what have you done to my formatting?

"I do not believe that trans rights and women’s rights are or should in any way be in conflict and I will argue that case until my dying breath. And that, I think, is the basis on which we should try to progress this debate."

• *But that's the whole bloody debate, Nicola. We can't 'progress a debate' by everyone else just capitulating to your view. Much as you might prefer it that way.

Feminists, and many other people for that matter, including the EHRC, are very clear that the problem is that there is a conflict of rights.

(trying again without the bloody italics and bolding)

She’s an embarrassment to Scotland. I’ve voted SNP all my life, not a chance they will get my vote again.

Yet again I am horrified that out of Sturgeon, Starmer and bloody Boris, it is Boris the flaming clown that is the only one speaks for me on this issue 😡

Her doubling-down almost seems personal at this point, beyond the usual "let's do things differently from England". I've long suspected shady donors filling the SNP coffers with some much-needed cash, but perhaps she's got a close friend or relative deeply in the woo and feels she's sticking up for them.

Massive nails it.

Alex Massie: Sturgeon is all wrong about women’s rights

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/427b18d2-ca2b-11ec-b4b6-e30a321b8cd3?shareToken=36b3010f73058b9887b3901126672974

Massie.

Although Massive covers his talent with words.

Thank you, Alex.

'The government’s gender reforms are the most radical piece of legislation in the history of the Scottish parliament. It is not a tidying-up exercise; it is a fundamental recategorising of humanity.'

I think he has it, here. It's not about money (that I have seen), nor that she particularly believes what she says. It's just a gargantuan lack of imagination and empathy and willingness/ability to listen.

'It has been obvious for a very long time that Sturgeon suffers from an imaginative deficit. She is incapable of understanding why anyone might reasonably and in good faith disagree with her. The act of disagreement is itself proof of wrongness.'

Far FAR too many people in Scotland are still falling for the 'vote SNP for independence and then sort out the rest later' idea.
It's driving me increasingly nuts, that people are willfully ignoring just how incompetent the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon in particular are.

This post from WingsOverScotland is also interesting. Surveys showing support for independence in Scotland drop off precipitously among females since the GRA reforms were announced:

wingsoverscotland.com/progress-update/

(From 60% supportive to 43% supportive of independence).

'it’s very female-specific. The drop in support among men since the poll cited by Carslaw is just three points, compared to the 17-point fall among women in the same period, and has turned a 14-point Yes lead into a 6-point No lead.'

That Alex Massie article completely shreds her - and deservedly so.

Another piece of pettiness from Sturgeon.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3613e852-c99b-11ec-a118-514c2c06bc05?shareToken=61501bfc98b2962cdd2551fd033a4e4f

Good.

Oh ffs

Reading this again and I still despair at Sturgeon pushing her religious gender beliefs onto the rest of Scotland with absolutely no thought to the women and children harmed by this ideology.

Another article. Even more concerns around the GR plans of "feminist to her fingertips" Sturgeon.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-status-of-recruits-must-be-disclosed-to-employers-dp9lfzqh6?shareToken=753baba1e8e25570303785a187b2d61d

"I do not believe that trans rights and women’s rights are or should in any way be in conflict and I will argue that case until my dying breath. And that, I think, is the basis on which we should try to progress this debate."

She identifies as there not being a conflict.

Which involves selective reality and alternative facts, and a faith based position rather than an objective one competent to recognise all facts and draw balanced, objective and impartial conclusions. Which basically renders the person unfit for any form of public services or office.

And her desire to identify as such is based in her foundational belief that the wishes and ambitions of male people are intrinsically more important than the inclusion, access, equality, safety, needs and feelings of female people. It is a wholly sex based position making a total nonsense of much of the reasons touted for trying to force females to surrender to male commandeering of all spaces and resources and male primacy of right and access, and she is too cowardly to be honest with herself or anyone else.

Again rendering her wholly unfit for the job.