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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Help wording an email to manager re: gender

58 replies

HunterHearstHelmsley · 29/04/2022 21:56

I have a rough draft of an email already but could do with some help wording it...

I am a gender critical. Recently, a trans woman has joined by team at work. Several emails have been received about their pronouns and how they expect to be addressed, with added articles.

I'm fine with addressing them however they fancy. I need to contact our mutual manager to remind them I am gender critical and this belief is protected under the Equality Act. I don't intend to misgender anyone. I don't want the ideology forced upon me. I want my beliefs to be respected.

Can anyone help me pen an email please?

OP posts:
SleepingStandingUp · 29/04/2022 22:44

HunterHearstHelmsley · 29/04/2022 22:19

The problem is there has already been four emails (in less than a month) about their pronouns and trans rights and extra reading for understanding.

I don't want anyone to be chastised or anything. I just want to remind management of my views. I don't want to receive a load more emails about gender identity when it's something I don't believe in. I wouldn't send her gender critical information, that would be offensive.

So once she starts, if she sends another you tell her you feel adequately equated thanks so you don't any more articles.

IStandWithMaya · 29/04/2022 22:49

Good luck OP.

Help wording an email to manager re: gender
RachelshouldvegonetoParis · 30/04/2022 09:00

But for now you’re only being asked to bear witness to HR prostrating themselves on the trans altar for woke points and arse covering.

😂

Honestly OP you’ll create more problems if you tackle it at this point. Only tackle it if and when it impinges on your rights.

At the moment it may be annoying but it’s nothing more than that.

And above all, be welcoming to the person. They may be deluded according to you, but plenty of people are deluded by ideologies that others consider ridiculous and are still lovely people worth knowing. My friend thinks that COVID is predicted by the bible. I still love her.

ResisterRex · 30/04/2022 09:07

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HMSSophia · 30/04/2022 09:18

I feel your irritation OP. There is no need for her to send out "educational" information to work colleagues- doing so is imo forcing her views on people at work. It is for HR to determine what D&I material is sent to staff. If she was vegan and sending out material about animal butchery, more people than you would be offended. This is about Trans yet again being positioned as so important that people need educating ... it's a political act, you know it and she knows it.

If you say nothing then down the line you'll be invited to a meeting without coffee, where the fact that you "said nothing" for months about your protected beliefs will be held against you and used to imply that you can't truly hold those beliefs. I would contact HR

malloo · 30/04/2022 10:18

If this is genuine, (and I'm not sure it is - something about the way you refer to yourself as 'a gender critical', and also saying you feel 'unsafe' when nothing at all has happened) then I suggest you welcome the trans person into your workplace like you would any other person and just get on with your job. At some point you may find you need to remind HR that your beliefs should be respected but it's not now.

CatSpeakForDummies · 30/04/2022 10:26

This honestly sounds like lowering yourself to the level of attention seeking and hyperbole we are trying to fight against, I can't see the email helping you in any way.

I think you need to make a clear division in your mind between individuals and the wider system. I don't believe in god but I would never start an email about a Muslim colleague sending round information on Eid. I'd wait until I was asked to do something, like saying Grace, before making a stand.

I also think the best approach is less oxygen, not more. The bombardment and inappropriateness of sending people lots of info on your special interest is more off putting than seeing a counter argument.

Dinotastic · 30/04/2022 13:06

100% agree with @CatSpeakForDummies and other posters who say an email to HR will only reflect badly on you at this point - you haven’t been discriminated against so there’s nothing to complain about. Rise above it and pick your battles. And I say this as someone who’s as GC as they come!

saggyhairyass · 30/04/2022 13:27

I come across emails at work that a contrary to my beliefs too, but I press "delete" and instantly forget about them.

Don't write your email OP. No need.

titchy · 30/04/2022 13:28

OP you're being ridiculous. New starter has joined. They're a 'wibble' which is a protected characteristic. As a team you may not have ever worked with a wibble before so you have been sent some well-meaning, if irritating, emails explaining what it means to be a wibble. No need for anything more because nothing has happened to lead you to feel unsafe or that your legally held views are not being respected.

Wibble can of course mean trans, Jewish, pregnant, Muslim, menopausal, sight-impaired, wheelchair using etc etc. No one would bat an eyelid if a blind colleague joined and you received several emails letting you know how they managed, used voice software etc.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/04/2022 14:13

Agree, just delete the emails, with or without reading them. Keep your powder dry for if or when something happens.

ChaToilLeam · 30/04/2022 14:18

Keep your powder dry, OP. I’d just ignore the emails. If asked whether you’ve read them, aren’t you just too busy with work, as is appropriate in the workplace?

NewBlueGoo · 30/04/2022 14:23

I agree with PPs. You haven't been discriminated against.

At the moment nobody is asking you to do anything except be decent and collegial, which you say you're prepared to do. You've been offered the opportunity to read some articles, but nobody's making you read them, or asking you to discuss them in staff meetings.

The time to complain is if and when there's a problem that your employer has a legal responsibility to resolve.

Toponeniceone · 30/04/2022 14:35

Don't do it op!! It would wind me up something chronic. I think it would be ok if you get another one to say can we keep work emails for work purposes though.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 30/04/2022 14:36

As @ResisterRex said. Do nothing. It will do no good.

In every other circumstance a new employee's 'point of difference' would be held in confidence. No emails, no literature, no propaganda would be sent out explaining their PC etc.

It's one of those things that makes the workplace political with a capital P when it only needs be lowercase.

Collect your own data and hold it ready for rebuttal, should you ever need it.

And try hard not to misgender. Use the person's chosen name at all times, no s/he or they. Just their name.

Now relax.

WallaceinAnderland · 30/04/2022 14:36

OP I am also gender critical and I would not do anything at this stage. I would just delete the emails. The time to speak out would be if they asked me to add pronouns to my emails or attend training, etc. Other than that, I would just get on with my work.

Pebblee · 30/04/2022 14:38

Lol is this a joke?

Theunamedcat · 30/04/2022 14:43

Are the emails coming from the manager or from the colleague?

burnoutbabe · 30/04/2022 14:47

if these emails are from the new colleague, i'd probably mention to the manager if they KEPT being sent on the same subject and ignore the few at the start which is more setting out how to treat them (weird but acceptable)

i can't imagine they would keep sending them? surely that would piss everyone off who will be "yeah WE KNOW"

TabithaHazel · 30/04/2022 14:57

If the articles are being sent by the colleague I would ask your manager to remind them that only work related emails should be sent around. If it's your manager sending them, then just politely say that other people's identities are not your concern and you are there to do your job not to be re-educated.

GreenWhiteViolet · 30/04/2022 15:06

'Feel unsafe' makes me suspect this is not entirely serious.

Facts, not feelings. If you aren't actually being asked to do anything which goes against your beliefs, there's no problem. Delete the unnecessary emails and get on with your day.

LauraNicolaides · 30/04/2022 15:12

'Feel unsafe' makes me suspect this is not entirely serious.

It is quite hard to distinguish parody from reality.

AgathaAllAlong · 30/04/2022 15:16

It is a protected characteristic, but not in the sense that you get to insulate yourself from receiving these emails. If you were an atheist you wouldn't get to demand that your Christian management not send Christian mail round, for example. Just delete without opening and move on. I really wouldn't email management and remind them, what good would come of it? If they are gender evangelists they will just up the number of emails, if they don't really care, they won't care about your views either.

TolkiensFallow · 30/04/2022 15:17

I call Daily Mail phishing

DonkeyDogStoleMyBedroom · 30/04/2022 15:24

If this was an attempt to garner screenshots about how nasty us wascally wimmenz are, it's failed miserably.

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