New York Post article 'Trans doctor who helps teens transition says it’s now ‘gone too far’ '

[DomesticatedZombie]

nypost.com/2022/04/15/transitions-have-gone-too-far-trans-psychologist/

Much of this was in the LA Times article, I think, but I couldn't find the thread ...

There seems to be a bit of a push back in the US. The Washington Post has also published a 'cautious approach' article in the last few days. I think maybe the tide is turning over there a bit.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/11/i-was-too-young-to-decide-about-transgender-surgery-at-nineteen/

Thank god they’re waking up!

No shit, Sherlock! It's a shame these people had to do so much damage before reaching such an obvious conclusion. I hope the lawsuits are successful.

I assume lawyers are involved…

But I guess, golden bridge and all that

Law suits is what will do it in the USA.

That dreadful Irish woman surgeon for a start.

The Washington Post, LA Times, the powerful Ross Douthat piece in the New York Times too, all in the space of a week.

They can see the lawsuits coming, and the ones that speak up now hope to avoid some of the fall out, like turning Queen's Evidence.

Sadly, it’s only concern about the lawsuits that’s finally drawing attention to those charlatans.

I would bet my bottom dollar that the “trans doctor” who’s “finally speaking out” has calculated that he’s benefited very well financially from the ideology of genderism and now he wants to creep away to a quiet life of luxury. I don’t believe for a second any of these “doctors” have the slightest bit of concern for the physical or psychological well-being of the teenagers they “treat” .

But thank Christ that the issue is coming increasingly to public attention.

@bellinisurge

Law suits is what will do it in the USA.

That dreadful Irish woman surgeon for a start.

Yes. She makes my blood boil.

I wonder if the health insurance companies are having anything to do with it? Those hormone treatments will be lifelong followed by treatment for all the problems that start.

An explosion in self inflicted, expensive, continual paying out would certainly make the insurance industry think, surely. You only have to check khn.org/news/tag/bill-of-the-month/ to see that money talks loudly.

I think it's lawsuits:

reduxx.info/exclusive-florida-lawyer-seeking-information-from-gender-surgeon-patients/

The Irish doctor was she on I am Jazz? So utterly blaze about the surgeries.

Are we allowed to say 'peaked' on here yet, because it looks like the USA is finally 'peaking' now.

That lawyer makes an interesting point about ‘psychosurgery’ and analogy to lobotomies. It’s really hard to fathom how a movement premised on extremely invasive medical and surgical interventions with life-long consequences is presented as ‘the right side of history’, given the landscape that kind of approach so obviously sits within.

Further to my post above, a longer read.
undark.org/2022/04/06/the-evolution-of-pediatric-transgender-medicine/

US$39 000 per MONTH

I think it depends who's watching, Ivy

The Democrats must be waking up to how electorally toxic it is. The whole irony of the 'don't say gay' issue now around US schools in Republican states is that the Democrats haven't been 'saying gay' either, and seemed perfectly content as a generation transed the gay away. And now a perfectly understandable parental concern about their children being fed gender ideology in schools and set on the pathway to irreversible drug regimes and surgeries is threatening to take hard fought for gay rights down with it.

"I worry that people will accuse me of setting the train in motion, as part of those who advocated the affirmative approach to gender in youth, even though that’s not a reasonable account of what happened.”

Quote from the doc.

I've also noticed in the past few weeks on social media more gay men openly expressing concern about the sexual expectations that gay-male-identifying transmen have. As this spike in teenage girls transitioning to transmen or non-binary starts to enter their twenties, gay men are noticing more what lesbians have been saying for years, about males in lesbian spaces, dating, the 'genital preferences are transphobic' narrative.

And on the "don't say gay" name that's been attached to the Bill:

lisaselindavis.substack.com/p/why-some-liberals-embrace-the-dont?s=w

I looked at the Bill, which is here:

m.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF

It's pretty clear from the first couple of pages that it's not the "don't say gay Bill" but the "parental rights in education Bill", which establishes that parents have rights, and that what is taught in schools has to adhere to certain standards.

But like surgery, it seems gender ideology has got into everything and used fuzzy language to obscure what's going on.

I just hope the USA ‘peaks’ soon before the Labour Party gets back in.
I think they are just following along implementing the Democrat’s policies, it would be a lot harder for them here if the tide turned in America.

@TheBurmundseyIndustrialEstate

I just hope the USA ‘peaks’ soon before the Labour Party gets back in. I think they are just following along implementing the Democrat’s policies, it would be a lot harder for them here if the tide turned in America.

I thought this too. Why else are we hearing Labour MPs telling untruths about the home abortion amendment?

That seems straight out of the Dem Playbook. Dangle abortion over our heads so we stay compliant.

We need to be alert for this and to say NO.

gay men are noticing more what lesbians have been saying for years, about males in lesbian spaces, dating, the 'genital preferences are transphobic' narrative.

Depending on how much medical and surgical treatment the transmen or NBs have had, it's possibly quite cheerful that they experiencing desire. It's miserable for them that it's oriented towards people who do not reciprocate.

Nonetheless, given how rapidly and astonishingly successful some advocacy has been in this area (sports; prisons; erasing women as a sex class; pronouns; shifting language around healthcare, policy-making, education) does anybody want to take bets on a widespread drive to problematise the nature of desire?

I don't think change in the US will be fast with Rachel Levine in a senior health role for the democrats.

But do definitely agree that Labour are following the democrats on trans rights.

@KittenKong

I assume lawyers are involved…

Yep. From Twitter…