Meanwhile, in the Australian election …

[TheSandgroper]

www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-15/trans-women-in-sport-politicised-and-weaponised/100989438

No mention of just saying “TWAW” being all that is needed. No mention of invasion of the change rooms.

I could go on.

Ahhhhh…. I see. I am sorry. That first sentence threw me.

(and welcome to MN by the way)

My impression is that Morrison is also known to direct most of his campaigning towards men who might, just might, vote Labor. So trans woman in sport is one way to do that because sport is so central to Australian culture.

Also typical of Morrison is to use a woman in his party to do his dirty work.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10827499/Australia-election-2022-Tony-Abbott-backs-Liberal-candidate-Katherine-Deves.html

Why is it always "banning trans from women's sports" as opposed to "banning males with from female sports".
Or at least saying transwomen (transmen a whole different issue obvs but nobody cares about them).

What are the polls generally saying @TheSandgroper for the election? I did read recently Labor.

Just to be clear when I said 'nobody cares about transmen' I meant it is men and the media - who don't give them a single thought.

(Wonder why that is, could it be to do with the fact that they're FEMale and both socially conditioned to not make demands and in sports have next to no chance of taking away anything from men)

@MidCenturyClegs I haven’t been keeping track but a quick look at the headlines shows Labor getting in. You can take your pick whether it will be a wide or a narrow margin.

The Liberals have been in for a number of terms now and Australians may have a strong “it’s time for a change’ feeling, which we are wont to do. And then we have Scotty from Marketing (PM) who has supported Katharine Deves to the extent that he pulled rank and parachuted her into contesting the seat.

Saturday night with wine beside the fire is always the best bit so I can’t wait. However, pre poll and postal votes aren’t counted on the night. www.perthnow.com.au/politics/federal-election/federal-election-2022-greenfields-pre-poll-voting-centre-at-eastlake-church-garners-most-early-votes-in-wa-c-6834617 This year will be messy and I predict number of seats will not be decided the night.

I know a few Australians living in the States and in the U.K. who have been voting at their local embassies. A couple in France too. I'm guessing their votes are counted there and then their numbers shipped off.
I have family in Australia including young girls and boys so keenly watching. Thank you for standing up for women and girls over there

Voting procedures for those unfamiliarity with the system

www.aec.gov.au/Voting/ways_to_vote/
www.aec.gov.au/Voting/How_to_Vote/

All votes are returned to Australia for counting.

www.aec.gov.au/Voting/counting/hor.htm
www.aec.gov.au/overseas/voting.htm

Albo is good on local issues. He was my MP for a while and was very good back then for our electorate.

But ... it will be interesting to see if he gets in, just how he will deal with the gender identity issues at a federal level.

If he has to rely on the Greens, we’re buggered.

greens.org.au/policies/sexual-orientation-gender-identity-and-intersex

It any political party has to rely on the Australian Greens as a coalition partner, Australia is buggered.

Perhaps a vote for Pauline?

OMG Sandgroper!

I would say 'please explain!' but I think it is clear.

What worries me is that it's the likes of Pauline Hanson delivering this message. It does add a nail in the coffin to women's rights when your traditional leftie voters despise her and her racist (in the real sense, going back 30 years) views.

She totally owns that.

www.onenation.org.au/please-explain

I’m just poking around her website and, fuck, this is sponsored by Malcolm Roberts. She can certainly read her audience, though.

www.onenation.org.au/gender-neutral-language

She could do nothing but own 'please explain'. I remember her turning it to her advantage very early on.

You know what I mean though, right?

It's not the same as ppl accusing PP / KJK as being far right because she talked to Tucker in the US

Pauline does have a reputation of being racist going back decades so it makes the gender critical movement harder to be seen as benign.

I guess what is needed is politicians like Labour MP Rosie Duffield here in the U.K. speaking up. That comes from GC women working within Labor in Aus to sway minds in support of women and children.

I found the stubby cooler very provoking. It certainly fits Pauline's branding. She is quite masterful to playing to her audience. Does anyone take notice of one nation anymore though?

What is needed is female MPs and Senators across all parties to come out to support women and children there, as in Australia, absolutely! Drown out Pauline and her extremist views on anything.

Exactly, cross-partisan support.

I enjoyed watching this the other day, 2 Aussie GC fems women chatting about all of this.

Just watched this interview of
Katherine Deves, wow she's brilliant

fb.watch/d5eQkotc2c/

Katherine Deves is not likely to get in, I hope she hasn’t found this whole experience too traumatic. Worth saying that while it’s fair to say the issues are more fundamental for working class women, it’s more and more a feature in private schools and healthcare and these themes affect waringah. (Coed schools more so than single sex, single sex
schools seem to have a decent grasp of being sex based.)

If Labor get 8n, this will likely be a scenario
www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-13/election-greens-morrison-transgender-rights-are-non-negotiable/100989016

Still, the fact that Katherine is now actually polling well despite all the crappy headlines, the lack of media engagement, is a sign that the issues she supports are very much aligned with the majority views.

It will be interesting is the male WA surfing female title winner will further illustrate what she is pointing out. We now need some female surfers to come forward.

I came on to say the same.
I live in that electorate and despite agreeing with Katherine on trans issues, I simply cannot vote for the liberal party.
Zali is a good pick for our area.