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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do people really believe this about transition?

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MamaSaidTheredBeDaysLikeThis · 06/04/2022 18:28

twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1511710676473069568

Is this part of the issue - besides the misogyny? That people really do believe you can partially or completely become the opposite sex?

“Trans women can go through female puberty and develop biologically female bone structure. Trans women can biologically develop female muscle mass.” Or is this just Tom Harwood being, well, himself?

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FOJN · 07/04/2022 08:10

Has Tom acknowledged there are only two sexes? If transwomen are not biologically male the what does he think they are? How could they be transwomen if they were born female?

I'm off to by myself a dictionary. Grin

Knittingchamp · 07/04/2022 11:26

@nepeta

Harwood has also advocated the wolf whistle test to trans women, stating that if they get whistled at by heterosexual men, then they are clearly women. It's an oddly sexualised definition of what a woman is, though not an uncommon one when this issue is discussed.
It's the quintessential example of white male privilege, isn't it, a not very talented, misinformed bloke being given a big pulpit to spout his rubbish confidently and from, when he does not have any of the knowledge, intelligence, experience or qualifications to do so, yet feeling perpetually entitled to be respected and heard.
MoonOnASpoon · 07/04/2022 12:28

Yes people really do believe it, including intelligent people I know. They have been told as if it's authoritative fact that your sex isn't really your chromosomes but a bunch of other stuff that can be changed. Then there are the people for whom you just magically are whatever you say you are (as regards sex) so you a boy just IS a girl etc and hence has changed sex by saying so, and the physicality is irrelevant.

Hence the starring role of the clownfish which does actually change sex, but only because it has the genetic potential to be either sex and function as either sex - not because it's been pumped full of extra hormones and had surgery. But this isn't about thinking or reason.

If people could change sex, we would expect to see the same rate of reproductive function in the "changed" sex as all people of that sex have. I.e. though not all women can get pregnant, a high percentage can. We would expect to see the same rates in TW if people could change sex. The fact that no one has ever been reproductively functional in their new "gender identity" suggests changing sex isn't a thing in humans like it is in clownfish.

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