Boris Johnson on Sky

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Johnson “sad” about the reaction from LGBT groups, says he’s 100% committed to a ban on gay conversion therapy, but there complexities and sensitivities about the area of gender, and he thinks there are things that need to be worked out.

Determined to tackle prejudice.

Re. trans conversion therapy, it wasn’t something he thought he would have to consider in great detail. These are novel concepts. He doesn’t think it’s reasonable for kids to be deemed Gillick competent in trans treatments. He doesn’t think males should be competing in female sports. Women should have spaces which are dedicated to women.

That’s as far as his thinking has developed, and if it puts him in conflict with others, he wants to work it out. Is sympathetic to transitioners. But these are complex issues and it takes thought to get it right.

@Signalbox

How do you know he isn’t lying about this just to get your vote

What might he be lying about? That he actually thinks it’s fair for men to compete with women? Or that he thinks children do have Gillick competence for experimental medical treatments.

The Tories were all set with these laws to look really progressive and right on. They’ve done a U turn because they’ve realised that the issue is more complex than they first thought. It seems quite straight forward really.

This. It was Theresa May who was taken in on self-id but then Brexit was a distraction.

Dan Carden (Labour MP) tweeting Johnson is ‘sowing division in society at home’ rather than focusing on helping LGBT people abroad with the conference.

That rather throws what actually happened down the memory hole, doesn’t it? Stonewall and other organisations were told no about something they wanted in UK law, they pulled out and the conference became untenable.

If Johnson had his way it would have gone ahead...

@bellinisurge

And the same in the USA. Trump or his acolyte will get back in unless Biden stops this stupid shit. But he won't. And the US is doomed to Trump #2

Yes but the UK Conservative Party is way to the left of the USA Republicans. It was closer in the Thatcher-Reagan years but still quite a gap.

Streeting could take that space. He is committed to trans rights but he also recognises women’s rights

Not sure what he believes and am not prepared to take the risk right now that he is committed to women’s rights at this time.

I have tried to look for that thread about the group he was mentioned in would have been about 2019. Does anyone have a link?

He’s spotted a weakness as the sunlight hits the TRA/Stonewall agenda. Labour are sticking with the ridiculous notion that men can become women, so of course he is going to come down on the side of biological reality as more and more women turn away from Labour.
He wants those votes. Stating biological and safeguarding reality will get him many of those votes.

Of course he does. He's an opportunist and a populist politician. He wants to divert attention from the tax hikes. He's a misogynist and a racist, granted, but the one thing I don't accuse him of being is transphobic. What he said today was nothing but compassionate to trans people, if you believe him (and I have no reason to think the Tories care any more for trans people than they ever did for women).

I doubt any poster on this board is unaware of these issues. We know what Johnson is about. Well, I for one am pleased to see so many people state they still intend to vote Tory - as do I, and I'm not being a 'shy Tory' about it, either. Yes, even in view of the disastrous fuck-up that was Brexit. (This will be for only the second time in my life; the first time, I'd have voted for the devil to get rid of Blair).

This is the most sustained, catastrophic assault on women's rights I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. So much so, that to me, other issues are now of secondary importance. Vote Labour, and you're voting self ID, and will possibly wake up one day blinking in the daylight, wondering where the rights have gone that you gave away and will likely never get back. As far as woman are concerned, you're voting for your own erasure. Why would any female even contemplate doing such a thing? It flies in the face of logic altogether.

I did not leave Labour. Labour left me. Boris Johnson's party did not win my vote. Labour lost it.

And until their leader recognises what a woman is and takes our rights, dignity and safeguarding concerns seriously, they are NEVER getting it back.

PS. Anyone know where I can get hold of some Women's Rights stickers?

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

PS. Anyone know where I can get hold of some Women's Rights stickers?

@MarieIVanArkleStinks, try the Wild Womyn Workshop:

wildwomynworkshop.com/category-product/sticker/

Or Posie's shop at Standing for Women:

www.adulthumanfemale.store/stickers

Many thanks!