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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Graham Linehan in the DM

83 replies

SpringLobelia · 02/04/2022 09:31

Can't see another thread yet.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677797/Graham-Linehan-Trans-rights-extremists-destroyed-career-marriage-never-in.html

I just want to say thank you for everything you are doing. Thanks

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DERFDogmaExlusionary · 02/04/2022 12:18

Flowers thanks Graham Linehan

AlisonDonut · 02/04/2022 12:30

@Calpolly

That's what happened to Glinner and why he was given a harassment warning following a dispute on Twitter

That's just his side of the story, who knows why they really seperated? TBH it's none of our business and him repeatedly blathering on about it in the national press and on TV as the reason they split is disrespectful to his ex.

Believe it or not, he IS entitled to his side of his own fucking story. A certain TRA did indeed post his wife's address online and when these people who have previously been in jail for assault know where you live and publicly post it, it is fucking scarey
DrLouiseJMoody · 02/04/2022 13:48

Whether or not one agrees with Graham's tone isn't the point here: he was doxed and harassed by the very people that, lacking any insight, consider themselves victims. Adrian Harrop, as the entire world now knows and as any new employer will see the moment they research him, was suspended for one month (which is precisely what the GMC asked for) for abusing me and three others. He was not "defending trans rights", but rather, being a deeply abusive individual who thought it normal to dox, threaten, and cyberstalk (which is stalking). He has no recourse to complain when anyone states this since it is quite clearly spelt out in the GMC determination.

This behaviour does impact upon one's personal relationships and we don't always act in ideal ways (what is the ideal way when you are plunged into insanity?). My wife, for example, was frightened when our address was posted on-line (I was just angry since I consider the abusive personality disordered not especially bright man who did it an absolute joke). After she died, the same TRAs had / have the gall to post that she was a victim of "domestic abuse" - the only people that abused her were TRAs and certain "friends" who saw her as a prop to use in their campaign against "Terfs" (and by extension me).

I completely understand his anger. Of course, we should introspect upon our own responses (I could have been less reactive dealing with some things but then the invasion of my life was / is extreme and there's no "script" for when abusers abuse). It's clearly much more nuanced than "Graham lost the plot" or "TRAs are 100% to blame", but he certainly has legitimate complaint about what has been taken from him. I see nothing incorrect in the DM article. If others do, they might contemplate suing.

Again.

Apollo441 · 02/04/2022 14:05

Is @soregums going to come back and apologise for posting TRA disinformation? Or just scuttle off having been revealed? I'm with GL and I am grateful for his unswerving courage in the face of the unrelenting harassment.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 02/04/2022 14:15

I very much enjoyed the Rebecca Harry’s description of one of the TRAs that has been litigating against Glinner in that piece.

I understand that there has been recent legal actions between the DM and that TRA too.

soregums · 02/04/2022 14:46

@devildeepbluesea apologies for having a life and not immediately responding, some of us have things to get on with other than posting on threads all day.

@NeinDanke disingenuous? How? For having an opinion different to yours? Twitter banned an account ages ago. He may very well have another account. Twitter have a pretty high threshold before banning users so I wish I had seen those comments to draw my own opinion.

@NecessaryScene what makes you think I'm a new poster? I've been a regular poster on MN for about a decade. I change user names to protect my privacy. Any of the MN admins will happily look at my account and verify that for you.

Thelnebriati · 02/04/2022 14:51

Stop pretending a fake account is genuine.

soregums · 02/04/2022 14:55

@Apollo441 I have nothing to apologise for.

Staffy1 · 02/04/2022 14:56

I wish the DM would stop moderating comments on any article vaguely related to the subject. There would be a lot more supportive comments for Graham without the moderation. The DM have had a few other very positive articles recently, other people who support womens rights and Sarah Vine’s sensible columns. Let’s hope it’s the start of noticeable change.

Thelnebriati · 02/04/2022 15:00

The DM stop any comments trying to explain the situation, so all you are left with is a load of non factual opinions.

Staffy1 · 02/04/2022 15:32

@Thelnebriati

The DM stop any comments trying to explain the situation, so all you are left with is a load of non factual opinions.
I find it strange that they have an article on someone who has had their free speech stifled and life ruined by harassment and bullying for factual statements, and they then stifle free speech and factual statements on that article.
HermioneWeasley · 02/04/2022 15:38

I can’t believe what he’s given up to stand up for women. I’m very grateful.

I can’t believe how he’s been abandoned. Spineless hypocrites.

Abhannmor · 02/04/2022 15:39

[quote soregums]@Circumferences that is not satire. I generally love his humour, father Ted and IT crowd are my two most favourite comedy shows. There's a difference between satire and being grossly offensive. [/quote]
Not satire because its not Glinner.

IsadoraQuagmire · 02/04/2022 15:46

@NeinDanke disingenuous? How? For having an opinion different to yours? Twitter banned an account ages ago. He may very well have another account. Twitter have a pretty high threshold before banning users so I wish I had seen those comments to draw my own opinion

Twitter ban users at the least provocation! They banned Graham for saying that men aren't women (they gave ME a temporary ban a couple of days ago just for being rude about Lia(r) Thomas Grin)

LauriePartridge4Eva · 02/04/2022 15:48

Matt Lucas is a dead loss. He signed that ridiculous letter along with other gay men, demanding that women give up their rights to men. And he did that AFTER women spoke to him of their concerns around it. It's hard to be let down by someone you thought was a friend, but Glinner is better off without a gutless man like that as his mate.

LauriePartridge4Eva · 02/04/2022 15:51

@Thelnebriati

The DM stop any comments trying to explain the situation, so all you are left with is a load of non factual opinions.

I posted around five comments explaining the situation but only one was posted....a reply to someone being a dick.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 02/04/2022 15:57

[quote soregums]@Apollo441 I have nothing to apologise for. [/quote]
You've been deleted.

I'd guess because your post was defamatory of Graham Linehan.

NecessaryScene · 02/04/2022 15:59

what makes you think I'm a new poster?

I was quoting Calpolly. If you're Calpolly too, I'm not sure using two names to shitpost on one thread is accepted practice.

Annette32123 · 02/04/2022 16:05

[quote soregums]@Apollo441 I have nothing to apologise for. [/quote]
Yes you do.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 02/04/2022 16:32

Twitter have a pretty high threshold before banning users so I wish I had seen those comments to draw my own opinion.

Twitter has banned /suspended women for quoting Hansard. You might want to rethink your thoughts about that threshold.

JoodyBlue · 02/04/2022 16:53

He is speaking of deliberate harrassment and stalking that threatened his family resulting in the loss of that family. He hadn't committed any crime. But he received no protection and notwithstanding no support is allowed to be publicly villified. Any decent person's heart would go out to him. This should not be allowed to happen. As a society we have a very long way to go in understanding the consequences of the internet for our personal freedoms and for the ability to arrive at a consensus as to what truth is. It is a worrying and peculiar world we are in at the moment. But I don't see how any decent person can't feel sympathy for Glinner.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/04/2022 17:44

I saw the full interview as I’m a subscriber to Glinner’s substack. I don’t know how anyone could see his pain and not be moved. Thanks to some amazing people, some sunlight is shining through. Incidentally he’s just had an influx of new subscribers off the back of the DM article.

@DrLouiseJMoody
I’m so sorry for the way you’ve been treated and for the loss of your wife. I hope you’ve found peace. Flowers

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/04/2022 17:48

More than 1,000 comments now. The vast majority supportive and top comments receiving thousands of likes.

ScreamingMeMe · 02/04/2022 18:26

@DrLouiseJMoody

Whether or not one agrees with Graham's tone isn't the point here: he was doxed and harassed by the very people that, lacking any insight, consider themselves victims. Adrian Harrop, as the entire world now knows and as any new employer will see the moment they research him, was suspended for one month (which is precisely what the GMC asked for) for abusing me and three others. He was not "defending trans rights", but rather, being a deeply abusive individual who thought it normal to dox, threaten, and cyberstalk (which is stalking). He has no recourse to complain when anyone states this since it is quite clearly spelt out in the GMC determination.

This behaviour does impact upon one's personal relationships and we don't always act in ideal ways (what is the ideal way when you are plunged into insanity?). My wife, for example, was frightened when our address was posted on-line (I was just angry since I consider the abusive personality disordered not especially bright man who did it an absolute joke). After she died, the same TRAs had / have the gall to post that she was a victim of "domestic abuse" - the only people that abused her were TRAs and certain "friends" who saw her as a prop to use in their campaign against "Terfs" (and by extension me).

I completely understand his anger. Of course, we should introspect upon our own responses (I could have been less reactive dealing with some things but then the invasion of my life was / is extreme and there's no "script" for when abusers abuse). It's clearly much more nuanced than "Graham lost the plot" or "TRAs are 100% to blame", but he certainly has legitimate complaint about what has been taken from him. I see nothing incorrect in the DM article. If others do, they might contemplate suing.

Again.

Flowers I know it has been hard for you too xx
ScreamingMeMe · 02/04/2022 18:27

Twitter have a pretty high threshold before banning users

Funniest thing I've read today Grin

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