Ok so I’m really fucking angry. How do I direct this so I’m not just screaming into a void.

[Ostryga]

I’ve always been GC on the ‘down low’ because you know - we’re all horrid creatures that want vengeance. Or something.

I cannot fucking stand this any longer. I’m reading everything and honestly I want to just burn men to the ground.

Obviously I have to direct this into something less annihilating and more all encompassing. But Jesus Christ. Where do I even start?

Are you ok?

I went through this phase about 2 years ago. I was so angry at all the batshittery & upset that ppl I liked & admired seemed to have had their brains removed over this issue.

I can’t be openly GC because I’d get fired or worse be sent on sone hideous stonewall type course to be “educated than men are women if they say so”

Coming on here helped a lot. I also donated to crowdfunders for Keira Bell, Maya & Alison Bailey, filled in consultations and kicked back where I could eg correcting gender to sex on forms where sex is what they mean or querying my local authority policies that list the protected characteristics incorrectly by substituting gender for sex

@Ostryga

I’ve always been GC on the ‘down low’ because you know - we’re all horrid creatures that want vengeance. Or something.

I cannot fucking stand this any longer. I’m reading everything and honestly I want to just burn men to the ground.

Obviously I have to direct this into something less annihilating and more all encompassing. But Jesus Christ. Where do I even start?

Many men agree with us even if it takes a while for some of them to see it.

Write to you MP. Tell them why you're angry. Ask them how women's hard-won, sex-based rights will be upheld if we allow men to reclassify themselves as women? Ask why women and girls are being co-coerced to sharing same-sex spaces with men who declare themselves female?

Ask what their position is on the upholding of women's sex-based rights.

And if you find yourself in a venue which has suddenly turned the ladies room into a unisex, make sure everybody knows about it and I have no doubt that women will vote with their feet.

We're all so sick of this shit.

Many men agree with us even if it takes a while for some of them to see it.

And plenty of women are virulent trans activists and are absolutely resistant to any suggestion that they might not want to support men to the detriment of women.

I understand and have been there, and still am, frequently.

But I feel more hopeful now. Lia Thomas is proving to be a wake up call for many people. And if the ‘you can’t have been raped’ hospital scandal gets the coverage it deserves, people will join the dots.

What we need is for public figures clearly aligned with left of centre and/ or eco-conscious movements to come out so that our public allies aren’t all people I would normally hate to be associated with.

Labour front bench, Daisy Cooper and Caroline Lucas - you see this, surely? And Caitlin, please. And the whole of the Guardian.

Volunteer for a women's rights organization that seeks to redress the balance.

Please don't heap this on all men. Most of them are as confused and fed up of this as the rest of us

Seek out your sisters. They will keep you sane.

Talk to people.

Write to your MP, councillors, etc.

Fury is understandable, as is a full range of difficult emotions. It's not a nice realisation to see how much shallow bullshit props up the patriarchy, how relentless the assaults on women's rights, how deeply baked in the misogyny.

If it's any consolation, it is SO much better today than it was four or five years back, when no one would talk or even listen. 'No debate' is dead. Now, we're starting at last to get the issues talked about. And as soon as questions are asked the weakness of the arguments used to lever away women's rights are exposed.

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLL.

Join local GC/radfem groups. Write to your MP/MSP. Donate to crowdfunders. Subscribe to GC newsletters and make noise about current campaigns. Speak to friends. Warn the women in your life who are unaware this is happening. Encourage the men in your life to notice and call out sexism, because this is a movement deeply rooted in sexist poison, and men are still more willing to listen to men than women. Drop things low-key into conversation. Get involved as safely as you are able. Draw courage and strength and wisdom from the many, many women who are in this fight together alongside you. Realise that this is sisterhood.

@Bearsar90

Are you ok?

Are you attempting to be helpful?

@Bearsar90

Are you ok?

Of course she's bloody okay. Most of the women on this board have times like this. Frankly if you're not furious at this astronomical level of misogyny and gaslighting, there's something seriously wrong with you.

Write to your elected representatives to talk them how you feel - websites like Fair Play for Women and For Women Scotland have suggestions for certain topics. www.writetothem.com is a really useful website. Contribute to crowdfunders and sign petitions. Carefully speak to other women. Ribbon/sticker/slate.

For a bit of joy read the Maya Forstater Employment tribunal threads.

@DomesticatedZombie

Seek out your sisters. They will keep you sane.

Talk to people.

Write to your MP, councillors, etc.

Fury is understandable, as is a full range of difficult emotions. It's not a nice realisation to see how much shallow bullshit props up the patriarchy, how relentless the assaults on women's rights, how deeply baked in the misogyny.

If it's any consolation, it is SO much better today than it was four or five years back, when no one would talk or even listen. 'No debate' is dead. Now, we're starting at last to get the issues talked about. And as soon as questions are asked the weakness of the arguments used to lever away women's rights are exposed.

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLL.

All of this, every word.

It's shit and I despair and rage on a regular basis, but when I started lurking on this board three-ish years ago, the consensus was that self-id was inevitable and we'd have to live with it.

No newspaper would touch any of the issues. We were ecstatic when Daley Thompson liked a tweet (no shade Daley, just remember him being the only one apart from Glinner).

The first letter I wrote i was properly scared to put my real name. It was to the uni (Hull?) That had been asked not to name their lecture theatre after Jenni Murray.

And we won that one. And we still don't win them all but my god, the difference these days. We've come a massively long way. Long way yet to go and I've said the tide's turning a million times and been wrong, but there's some momentum now.

On a good day, I have hope.

I've felt like that at times op. I seem to have moved through it (for now at least). No doubt helped by the huge effort by many women to challenge and roll things back.

@Bearsar90

Are you ok?

Yes. Clearly,

@VenezuelaChant

Join local GC/radfem groups. Write to your MP/MSP. Donate to crowdfunders. Subscribe to GC newsletters and make noise about current campaigns. Speak to friends. Warn the women in your life who are unaware this is happening. Encourage the men in your life to notice and call out sexism, because this is a movement deeply rooted in sexist poison, and men are still more willing to listen to men than women. Drop things low-key into conversation. Get involved as safely as you are able. Draw courage and strength and wisdom from the many, many women who are in this fight together alongside you. Realise that this is sisterhood.

Thank you for this!!

And everyone else. It’s good to find a home I can be angry within, without being attacked.

Out GC is so fucking freeing.

'I can’t be openly GC because I’d get fired or worse be sent on sone hideous stonewall type course to be “educated than men are women if they say so” No disrespect and I may be much older than you and I absolutely can afford to lose my job, but we can challenge this stuff. Useful phrases I have found are 'That sounds like bollocks ' 'Im not going to that training' 'You don't want to get into an argument with me about this' 'No really, you don't ' ' What would Robert Winston say?' and 'No' It's so liberating and people are just terrified to be challenged for the most part.

Everything everyone else has said but have a complete break from social media.

A lot of men are awful... I should know, I am one. You are in the right. You recognise the gender nutters and the captured institutions are constantly trying to gaslight you. It is a crazy time, but as other posters have mentioned, sunlight is breaking through.

Good for your sanity to have others who are sane to talk to... radfem/ 2nd wave feminist/ gender critical.

Although there are decent blokes with GC views, you would be safer getting initial support from your feminist sisters alone.

Just musing is myself how much money could be made by selling an effective Creep Radar!

Chin up and all the best!

Posie’s locals - see her YouTube

What on earth was wrong with BenCooperisaGod's comment? Didn't seem rude/personal/outrageous to me

I know what you mean OP, I go through phases of being incandescent with rage, and then hopelessness, and then just tired of the whole fucking thing.

And I have only been 'on board' with all this for about 18 months. I can't imagine how the amazing women who were beating the drum about this for the last 5 years or so must feel.... I am ashamed to say I had no idea what the fuck was going on back then, and would probably have just rolled my eyes or thought they were mad.

Anyway, we're here now, and we can only do our best. I have signed up to some women's groups, I donate to SexMatters and a few crowdfunders when I can afford it. I sometimes need to take a break from it all for my own sanity, but I keep coming back because it's too important to ignore.

Take care of yourself, you are definitely not alone.