How much money do plastic surgeons make from trans surgeries?

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... and who are the big players?

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The "Yeet the teet" doctor...

Why do you post these threads asking others to do the work for you?

Surgery/operations

@EishetChayil

Why do you post these threads asking others to do the work for you?

That's not the point of my threads - I'm asking questions that I interact with. I do the work too. It's also useful to discuss some of these ideas.

@EishetChayil

Why do you post these threads asking others to do the work for you?

It's incredibly important to be able to ask difficult questions. Sometimes threads get shut down, but as time moves on, we are able to talk about more. Occasionally these days there are threads left up on AIBU.

We do not know the scale of the problem unless we collectively research the problem.

That’s where TT Exulansic’s YouTube channel was very informative. The surgery side of transgender healthcare is shocking, especially for the phalloplasty procedure. Unfortunately it has been taken down now.

Probably not much as many opt to keep the offending article

If anyone's wondering why my post is hidden I've shared links to Exulansic and Jennifer Bilek

Sex Reassignment Surgery Market size was more than USD 316 million in 2019 and will witness 25.1% CAGR during 2020 to 2026.

www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market

In the States it’s worth a huge amount of money. Thousands of healthy people are opting to have complicated elective surgery and for many - particularly those opting for phalloplasty and vaginoplasty - there will be complications and follow up operations (particularly for FTM). It’s hugely lucrative and makes many into lifelong patients (the most lucrative kind). Which is why so many transition surgeons and surgery units are so keen to conduct biased studies to ensure there are no barriers to people accessing the surgery (particularly age).

It’s a horrifying mess.

I know cosmetic surgeons in the US who make an absolute fortune removing moles, facelifts, boob lifts, and tidying up scars. They work in a surgery of practitioners and it’s like a business (so clinics get bought and sold).

I can only imagine those doing much more serious and long term ‘treatments’ must be rolling on it.

I fully expect to see a 'Dopesick' type series about those who prey on the vulnerable and consign them to a lifetime of pain and misery. It might not be this year,but it'll come.

On the flip side of your question op, Scott has had a lot of horrible complications (as a lot seem to) and the medical bills are sky high:

"Between me and my insurance company, medical expenses exceeded $900,000."

That was over a year ago so the figure will likely be even higher now.

quillette.com/2020/10/06/forget-what-gender-activists-tell-you-heres-what-medical-transition-looks-like/

@TheFnozwhowasmirage I thought exactly the same thing!

I was jus listening to an episode of BBC More or Less about the placebo effect. Apparently it is much larger in the US than in other countries. They think it is because the benefits of medicines are in the add breaks in prime time tv.

Hospitals are also advertised on road signs.

Freakenomics also has quite a few episodes on the over-medicalised US, the unnecessary procedures and sometimes harmful procedures that happen there.

Scott Newgent, a middle aged transman who transitioned in adulthood FtoM, reckons that along with the complications it has cost him a million dollars in 6 years.

For an idea, look at the GoFundMe pages for top surgery and the rest and do the maths. Then look at the detransitioners on there having to fundraise again for reconstructive surgery. For the surgeons, its loads of money whichever way this goes. It's also money for the crowdfunding sites, who make a profit from this too, lest we forget.

That letter from numerous clinicians in the French press talked of the 'commodification of children's bodies', and it is.

@ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted

If anyone's wondering why my post is hidden I've shared links to Exulansic and Jennifer Bilek

Why is that a problem?

@ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted

If anyone's wondering why my post is hidden I've shared links to Exulansic and Jennifer Bilek

That message usually comes up if you've linked to an archive site or a crowdfunding site.

If it's an archive link to a now deleted page you can post the original url and people can search the archives themselves.

Last time I was in the states I saw an ad on the side of a bus for a surgeon doing kidney transplants!

They work in a surgery of practitioners and it’s like a business (so clinics get bought and sold).

Not just like a business - it is a business. Medical care in the US is a huge business. But most GP practices in the UK are also private businesses, often limited liability partnerships, that contract with the NHS to provide services. This isn't some new 'privatising the NHS' thing, it is the way they operated since the NHS was set up from thousands of private businesses and charities.

Yeah, from what I've seen. It's not just one op, complications seem to be pretty standard with genital surgery for both sexes and that when the money racks up.
Patients for life, it's when they get to old age and the cross sex hormones start biting them on the bum that we'll see the real problems.

Wow she is happy in her job. That's good I know. But...... what a job.

What happens to hormones in old age @TheWeeDonkey
I thought both sexes have less sex hormones as they age.

I this approach, medical 'care' that is, in effect, patient-led, where the NHS is reduced to 'affirmative' rubber stamping of patient (customer) demands, also has the potential to break up the NHS, and the social contract idea of the NHS, further. Taxpayers will be asked to fund the very expensive and complex long-term, lifelong care, including reconstruction and fertility treatment, of people who adamantly chose to alter their physically healthy bodies, often initially privately, enriching private practitioners, and using overseas-bought drugs and overseas surgery. And then there will be the lawsuits bought by detransitioners who were processed through NHS centres like the Tavistock and the many others springing up all over the country now.