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#RaquelvBristolUni: Ask Me Anything

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RaquelRosarioSanchez · 03/02/2022 19:27

Dear everyone,

Hope you are well.

As you may know, the trial for my legal case against the University of Bristol will take place next week from February 7th to February 14th 2022 (with the first day being a reading day for the judge). My case is mainly about sex discrimination and negligence. We are claiming that the University has a number of policies and practices that prioritize trans activism over women's rights. These policies are unnecessary and they are particularly harmful for women, because it is overwhelmingly women who campaign for sex-based rights.

It was extremely challenging for me to be so open and vulnerable writing it because I prefer to be far more reserved, but I understand how important it is for this legal process that I was as transparent as possible so I now am particularly keen for you to read my Witness Statement, if you can and are interested.

Once these documents are referred to in open court and available to the public, I will upload my Witness Statement on this link: www.raquelrosariosanchez.com/witness-statement. And I will also upload my Particulars of Claim, Skeleton Argument and Final Submissions on this link:
www.raquelrosariosanchez.com/legal-documents.

I am determined to get as much rest before the trial as possible, but I wanted to take a moment to speak directly to you because I am so grateful for all your kind words and support throughout all this. Hopefully, I will spend this weekend on a very long hike in the countryside, finishing a lovely historical novel and binge watching Harry Potter. But I've decided to take about an hour or so to come here on Sunday morning and answer any questions you may have. If you don't have a questions, but just want to share a message, feel free to do that as well. Please write your questions or comments by Sunday 8am.

You can learn more about my legal case by listening to this podcast on The Critic with author Julie Bindel: thecritic.co.uk/julie-bindel-in-conversation-with-raquel-rosario-sanchez/

You can also read an interview I did with journalist Peter Stanford for
The Telegraph : www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/student-forced-standing-women/

We will be asking the judge for permission to live tweet, and if we are allowed, the hashtag will be #RaquelvBristolUni and the main account will be @TribunalTweets, both other members of the public are welcomed to livetweet if they want to.

Speak soon and thank you!
Raquel

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DidoDino · 04/02/2022 08:48

It was extremely challenging for me to be so open and vulnerable writing it because I prefer to be far more reserved

This is courage, huge courage. Respect and admiration to you Raquel.Flowers

JudyGemstone · 04/02/2022 08:53

I’m in Bristol and have done some work for the university before - just wanted to give my support and wish you all the best Flowers

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 04/02/2022 09:30

No questions, just admiration and sisterly solidarity. Oh, and another donation — I’ll do that this morning. Best of luck. You’re an inspiration.

interferingma · 04/02/2022 09:35

No questions, just good luck and thank you for fighting the fight on behalf of other women. Not that I think you were in any way spoiling for a fight.
You'e a brave, brave, bright woman x

AtrociousCircumstance · 04/02/2022 10:53

Good luck 💪🏼⭐️ And thank you for your courage.

Monitaurus · 04/02/2022 11:06

Thinking of you on Monday and hope you get what you want.Good luck

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 04/02/2022 13:01

Also have no questions but want to express my gratitude for your bravery and send my very best wishes.

Will go and dig again, I hope you get your financial costs covered. The personal costs, I'm very sorry that you have to accommodate this nonsense in your life when you should be concentrating on enjoying your studies.

Your restful weekend sounds like a good idea.

Alekto · 04/02/2022 20:53

Thread about the Raquel's case (sorry if it's already been posted):

Raquel Rosario Sanchez www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4410688-Raquel-Rosario-Sanchez

Good luck! It will be interesting to see what Bristol have to say for themselves.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/02/2022 20:55

No questions here either just unrelenting admiration for you Flowers Bristol university have behaved appallingly towards you

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2022 20:59

Just sending good wishes and echoing admiration for your steadfastness. Also reminding you to look after yourself and ensure you have the support you need. These fights take their toll. Flowers Good luck Raquel and thank you on behalf of your generation of young women.

LilithOfEden · 06/02/2022 02:35

Hi Raquel, just. wanted to add my best wishes and wish you much luck for the trial. You shouId not have to be going through this ordeal, but you are an absolute shero to so many of us for standing up for yourself and all women.

I lived/worked in Bristol and had a sibling at the Uni. I don't think I've lived anywhere else where there was such a gulf between "town and gown" (and that's saying something, as I have lived in a few towns with major universities, including Oxford). The university has behaved appallingly, but have you had local support from non university groups? I can't imagine all the straight talking, down to earth, native Bristolians I used to know having any time for the nonsense you have endured from students and faculty members.

Sophoclesthefox · 06/02/2022 08:04

Good luck Raquel 🍀

My question is, do you think things have improved generally in this debate since the issues you face first surfaced back in 2018? Do you feel that womens voices are being heard more?

TheGreatATuin · 06/02/2022 09:00

Hi Raquel, I don't have any questions but wanted to wish you the best of luck. The way you were treated was deeply shocking.

Slothtoes · 06/02/2022 09:08

Thank you so much for keeping going. Your actions are for all of us, our daughters, sisters, mothers, at risk from this misogynistic politics. Legal cases are how change is made and protections are built. Academia has to be central to thinking our way out of this shameful mess.
Thank you for fighting to define the basic principles of what academic life and work can and should be. For being so unbelievably brave and putting so much of your private life into this fight. For being incredibly selfless to fight this at all.
I have so much admiration for you Raquel. Whatever the outcome, all of this shines a light on some very toxic misogynistic politics which has a reach far wider than academia. Best of luck. You have so many women behind you. Flowers

RaquelRosarioSanchez · 06/02/2022 09:50

Dear everyone,

Thank you for all the messages of support. I just noticed that over 4,800 people have been planting carrots and gardening in solidarity with everything I’ve gone through. We all have a big week ahead of us. My hope is that as a result of the trial for my legal case against the University of Bristol, we all get the clarity we need regarding the bullying and intimidation of women in academia. Obviously, I want to win my legal case. But more than that, I would like a legal judgement that addresses the duties and expectations that academic institutions owe women who find ourselves abused by trans activists staff and students.

Here are my responses to your questions:

BettyFilous asked: “Where do you draw your strength and resilience from?”

My family and close friends have been steadfast and unwavering in their support. From my besties from high school who knew me since I was 12 to the friends I made at university and former colleagues. That was really important because I never had any drama about friends deserting me or accusing me of being horrible. Even those who disagree with some policy points, they all know my character and where my heart’s at so I’m very grateful to have a strong circle around me.

My parents got divorced when I was very little but they share the same principles, which are my principles, and today they are best friends. Both of them spent many years as student activists and went on to become civil servants so they understand what it’s like to feel very passionate and resolute about a particular cause. So my parents, along with my larger family, represent a rock-solid core and without that, I probably would not have made it to this point.

I also meditate every night before I go to bed. Nothing wild like hours on end, but that moment by myself with my thought every night has truly saved my sanity, keeping me grounded and centred throughout an experience that has been so destabilising. People can always tell when I stopped doing it for a day or two because I get grumpy and grouchy at everything!

Cagedbirdsinging asked: “Are you ok for money?”

I am very grateful to everyone who has donated since June 2020, when we launched the case. But it’s been really heart-warming to see how people have truly stepped up this last month. For a while, I kinda thought people had forgotten about my case and I didn’t like to shout about it too much or too often because I know people have other commitments they need to prioritise.

Unfortunately, I will have to stretch the target one final time. If you look around, the costs for my case will be equivalent to everyone else standing up for sex-based rights but I’ve felt really uncomfortable asking people for money just to ask people for money, or just to say “look how much I’ve raised.” So, since we launched, I have put off stretching the target until it became absolutely necessary for each stage of the case (ie. once it became essential to the work the lawyers were doing at the time). The countdown on the carrot patch will renew and add 30 days until we meet the target so there’s still time.

MaMaLa321 asked: “Has your MP been any help Raquel?”

Yes, she tried to help for much of 2018. But at that point, the University was “reassuring” everyone who tried to support me or intervene on my behalf that we all needed to trust the University and that they were taking my case extremely seriously. Of course, at that point, nobody knew or could have anticipated that they would go on to do a 180% later on.

ConstanceBeryl asked: “I know you've said your department has been supportive - what would you say to anyone considering postgraduate study at Bristol, specifically in your department?”

That is a difficult question and I am not sure I have an answer. All I can say is that I wouldn’t want any woman (student, lecturer or employee) to be in an environment that so explicitly prioritised trans activism over women’s rights and have her rights be violated like I claim mine have. My experience has been challenging and I wouldn’t want to ever minimise the toll this takes on your psyche and wellbeing.

That being said, the Centre for Gender and Violence Research is superb. I am so grateful to all the women at the Centre who have been encouraging and so kind to me throughout. They have truly demonstrated that their commitment to ending the abuse of women is not theoretical, but genuine. Even when that puts them at odds with their own employer. Case in point, you can read the statement issued by the then Head of the Centre for Gender and Violence Research when the University decided to throw me under the bus:
womansplaceuk.org/2019/08/21/statement-by-the-head-of-the-centre-for-gender-and-violence-research-at-the-university-of-bristol/

Next week, Dr Williamson will testify against her own employer and in support of her student. That takes immense bravery and strength. So perhaps the only blessing in all my experience at the University of Bristol is that I got to meet such remarkable women and call them my colleagues.

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RaquelRosarioSanchez · 06/02/2022 10:11

Sophoclesthefox asked: do you think things have improved generally in this debate since the issues you face first surfaced back in 2018? Do you feel that womens voices are being heard more?

I think they are, but the cost for each individual woman is still too high so we need to keep speaking and pulling, as Jane Clare Jones says.#NoDebate is ending because more and more women (and men as well) are having the conversation rather than go away, retreating into obscurity. And when I say "having the conversation", I'm including anonymous conversations like the ones here on Mumsnet. You don't have to be out and public, if that's not something that suits you but you can still have a big impact. For example, I myself am public but I learn so much from lurking around the Sex and Gender Mumsnet Board often so I want to credit you all for helping me understand this topic so thoroughly.

Unfortunately, while we definitely are making progress generally, some groups of activist are becoming more virulent and aggressive against women. There are women in the UK being investigated by the Police for posting stickers and tweets. In Spain, this week, there is a child therapist in Andalucia called Carola López Moya who has been fined €120,000 for refusing to defend gender and the transitioning of children:
www.eldiario.es/andalucia/andalucia-estrena-ley-defensa-personas-lgtbi-abriendo-proceso-sancionador-psicologa-reniega-genero_1_8713747.html

We all need clarity and a proper balance between everyone's rights to prevent the abuses taking place against women like her (and like me) from perpetuating.

Off to my very long hike on the beautiful countryside. Thank you! Flowers Flowers

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 06/02/2022 11:10

Gaun' yirsel', Raquel.

Signalbox · 06/02/2022 12:17

Unfortunately, I will have to stretch the target one final time. If you look around, the costs for my case will be equivalent to everyone else standing up for sex-based rights but I’ve felt really uncomfortable asking people for money just to ask people for money, or just to say “look how much I’ve raised.” So, since we launched, I have put off stretching the target until it became absolutely necessary for each stage of the case (ie. once it became essential to the work the lawyers were doing at the time). The countdown on the carrot patch will renew and add 30 days until we meet the target so there’s still time.

You definitely shouldn't feel bad about asking for support. What you are doing (and all the others who are pursuing court action) will benefit us all. You have popular support because it is so important to so many women and it is such an obvious injustice to you. Best of luck for this week Flowers Hopefully the judge will allow live tweeting!

ConstanceBeryl · 06/02/2022 17:17

Thank you so much for your response. I've done a bit of gardening already but will go back now & see how the plot is doing. Wishing you all the very best. I hope it helps to know how many of us are behind you.

Musomama1 · 06/02/2022 18:18

Wishing you strength and solidarity, I read your case only recently, it made me tearful and I'm in awe of your resolve, thank for what you are doing. I agree that the cost is still way too high for people to speak their views.

I learn so much from these boards too, I can't believe essentially a reductionist 'ideology' is trumping sex based rights. I'll be thinking of you.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/02/2022 10:40

Good luck Raquel, so many of us behind you Thanks

TheFabulousSamathaJones · 08/02/2022 19:11

Good luck, lots of us are behind you

JoodyBlue · 08/02/2022 19:44

You definitely shouldn't feel bad about asking for support. What you are doing (and all the others who are pursuing court action) will benefit us all. You have popular support because it is so important to so many women and it is such an obvious injustice to you. This 100%

VeronicaBeccabunga · 08/02/2022 20:22

Pledge made via CrowdJustice. I hope this thread will nudge many more supporters, as it did me.
Wishing you success and sending my thanks for your bravery and determination.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 08/02/2022 20:48

@JoodyBlue

You definitely shouldn't feel bad about asking for support. What you are doing (and all the others who are pursuing court action) will benefit us all. You have popular support because it is so important to so many women and it is such an obvious injustice to you. This 100%
Thirded.

Women need the outriders like you. Your case is so important.

I'm sorry you are having to deal with this at all, it's grotesquely unjust.

I hope you are ok. Thank you for your bravery.

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