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RIP Yasmin

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DomesticatedZombie · 03/02/2022 10:09

Flowers

Thinking of her and her family and friends.

"She was probably the smartest and wisest woman I knew. She was just a simple, loving, amazing woman. I've never seen anyone compare to her, her parenting, as a person, her heart.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60221409

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Abhannmor · 03/02/2022 19:28
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DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 03/02/2022 19:58

Those poor families. Male violence is so prevalent. The legal system seems completely desensitized to it.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/02/2022 22:30

@DoubleYouOhEmAyEn

Those poor families. Male violence is so prevalent. The legal system seems completely desensitized to it.
All of the recent publicity around the Met points to rather more desperate reasons for the lack of interest in enforcing restraining orders and protecting women.

It's sickening.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 03/02/2022 22:32

I have been so broken-hearted by all these senseless deaths. Thank you for naming our sisters.

NitroNine · 03/02/2022 22:43

I suspect the government don’t want to use “femicide” because it would strengthen the case for making misogyny a hate crime Hmm

greattimestroubledtimes · 03/02/2022 23:11

@IKeptYouLikeAnOath

This is awful. I'm so lost this week, so down about how viciously, and how many men utterly despise us.

The deaths, the rapist footballers, the Met texts that were leaked. They hate us so much. And it feels like there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.

Totally agree. I’m also finding this week very hard
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/02/2022 23:24

The deaths, the rapist footballers, the Met texts that were leaked. They hate us so much. And it feels like there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.

The lack of accountability or even the vaguest concept that there should be. So many of the friends and colleagues of the footballers and those Met employees must have known yet they said and did nothing.

I always think of the Daniel Sloss monologue (I can't find a video clip but it's quoted here). He talked about his reaction to learning that one of his friends had raped another of his friends.

"The Scottish comedian said he has been thinking of a solution to the problem for a year.

He said: "It has to involve us. And by 'us' I mean men."

He says that he is not attacking the men in the room or his friends, before proceeding to tell his harrowing experience.

The comedian said: "I knew this man for 8 years and he fucking did it. There are monsters amongst us and they look like us."

He told his male spectators that if they are sick of the narrative, they can feel free to change it but they have to get involved.

He urged his male audience not to "sit back" and think "I'm not part of the problem."

"Deep down, I know most men are good", he said, "but when 1 in 10 men are shit and the other 9 do nothing, they might as well not fucking be there."

Speaking of his experience, he said that, looking back, there were signs in his friend's behaviour towards women that he ignored.

"And then he raped my friend. And that's on me until the day I die."

"Talk to your fucking boys. Get involved."

Different link, similar content. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/scots-comedian-daniel-sloss-shares-23688472

Hestyo · 04/02/2022 06:05

news.sky.com/story/chelmsford-murder-man-charged-over-death-of-canadian-teenager-at-home-in-essex-12531578

Ashley Flowers

"DCI Scott Egerton, Major Investigation Team, investigating, said: "I know that incidents like this will shock and sadden the community, but our initial enquiries show this to be an isolated incident and that there is no wider risk to the community."

Sure. Not a huge comfort when those isolated incidents happen 3 times a week, is it?

NonnyMouse1337 · 04/02/2022 06:41

RIP to all the women lost to male violence SadFlowers

Whatwouldscullydo · 04/02/2022 06:48

35 post. Just 35 posts so far and all those names. Sad

So tragic those poor poor women. And their families.

I dont know how the police can sleep at night witg their warped priorities.

43percentburnt · 04/02/2022 07:00
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YellowEllis · 04/02/2022 07:25

Heartbreaking.

My sister worked for CPS, she had to quit as it got to a point it effected her mental health. The amount of crimes against women, and the amount of rapists who got away with it. She always said she wanted to make a difference but it was just harrowing. This thread is just a snippet of what that must be like and I don't think I could hack it every day either Sad

RIP to all named, and the god knows how many others that are out there Sad

DomesticatedZombie · 04/02/2022 07:26

@Hestyo

news.sky.com/story/chelmsford-murder-man-charged-over-death-of-canadian-teenager-at-home-in-essex-12531578

Ashley Flowers

"DCI Scott Egerton, Major Investigation Team, investigating, said: "I know that incidents like this will shock and sadden the community, but our initial enquiries show this to be an isolated incident and that there is no wider risk to the community."

Sure. Not a huge comfort when those isolated incidents happen 3 times a week, is it?

Completely.
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Gingernaut · 04/02/2022 07:30

RIP Lucy Powell

DomesticatedZombie · 04/02/2022 07:52

Oh Lucy. So young. And your children. I'm so sorry, love. Flowers

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FemaleAndLearning · 04/02/2022 08:11

It is so heartbreaking seeing those names. The failures to protect so many who have restraining orders and the police failing women yet again.

MaitreKarlsson · 04/02/2022 08:23

@Goatsaregreat

That's horrific. Hadn't even seen that case. RIP Maria Sad
They are all terrible cases though.

If the police are going to be our only defence against this type of men, there needs to be:

Huge recruitment drive by police with corresponding increase in Govt funding

Way more representation of women within the police force so that these crimes are taken seriously

New protocols in place to enforce restraining orders- as in mobile forces that can respond quickly.

But I don't think that's the complete answer. Is it?

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 04/02/2022 08:30

Another day, another woman. I'm horrified, again, today.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10474637/Woman-36-dies-hospital-police-arrest-men-raping-murdering-her.html

DomesticatedZombie · 04/02/2022 08:33

RIP nameless woman. Flowers

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334bu · 04/02/2022 11:02

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-60250499

Never stops.

IKeptYouLikeAnOath · 04/02/2022 12:02

There's a woman missing in Dundee just now too. Sad

Hestyo · 05/02/2022 06:35

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-pc-misconduct-murder-denise-simmons-khunkhun-stonebridge-b980229.html

Another day, another murdered woman and another police officer alleged to have failed to protect her.

Flowers Denise

Monitaurus · 06/02/2022 11:46

I really don’t know how we can stop men doing this. I think we at least can advise our daughters not to get involved romantically or sexually with any men, as they cannot ever be sure they are not the 1in 10 men or one of the 3 plus victims a week. Men are not safe and until they can be trusted we should withdraw from them. Feeling sick as always that these complete bastards are mainly getting away with it. So sad for our sisters and their families.

Gumbomambo · 06/02/2022 12:18

All of them should be remembered. The countless women being beaten and raped every single day. The nameless women and girls trafficked every single day. The little girls being abused and raped in their homes every single day. All of them 💐