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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

British Cycling doubles down

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Bananarama101 · 31/01/2022 20:41

So it seems British Cycling new policy of inclusion can't actually be questioned or the fairness of just lowering testosterone to 'level' competition. They have the ability to limit or even seemingly fine members.

4w.pub/british-cycling-trans-policy/

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HowToCookAWolf · 07/02/2022 23:28

Thanks @PenStation, though hopefully I made it clear that I was quoting somebody and didn't write that particular bit myself.

HowToCookAWolf · 08/02/2022 05:38

[quote DazzlePaintedBattlePants]@HowToCookAWolf Just read your forum post. Wonder how you would have got on if you posted your thread on YACF?![/quote]
Sorry, missed this. My original post was of course removed – pretty sure they wouldn't like the new improved one either! (At the risk of painting a large target on myself, here's that link again.) I've also been banned from a different cycling forum for merely complaining about the deletion of a thread about sex and gender.

If any cycling enthusiasts here are looking for a place not overrun by gender zombies, feel free to stop by. Some of you may have already been, in a sense, as I like to quote people who articulate the issues well, and this board in particular has been a gold mine. A recent example from @RoyalCorgi: "Let's remember that babies are people too! So instead of talking about 'women giving birth to babies', we should talk about 'people giving birth to people'. That would make everything clearer."

Not being a mum I can't say I was radicalised by motherhood, so yes, Justine's brainchild is mostly to blame for my reawokening.

British Cycling doubles down
CatsOperatingInGangs · 09/02/2022 08:15

Just seen this on Twitter. More good stuff from the Womens Rights Network, looks like there’s a focus on sport for them. Two of the women speaking are (ex?) British Cycling members

youtube.com/channel/UCVFm-5smU7mNREPXtT78Jvw

Slidey23 · 09/02/2022 08:34

@CatsOperatingInGangs that link goes to an intro clip for WRN.

lovelyweathertoday · 09/02/2022 08:49

Accept all Participants in the gender they present; verification of their identity should be no more than expected of any other person;

I agree with the second part of this sentence. Most people race in the women's races because they are obviously women. They don't have any further checks. An obvious man turning up and saying he is a woman should be excluded because using the same straightforward check.

CatsOperatingInGangs · 12/02/2022 10:00

[quote Slidey23]@CatsOperatingInGangs that link goes to an intro clip for WRN.[/quote]
Apologies, here it is.

Slidey23 · 12/02/2022 10:51

Thank you!

GonadTheGaul · 20/02/2022 09:10

I hope British Cycling are looking at what Lia Thomas is doing for swimming and looking carefully at their own policies and what could be the result of them. Does anyone with a brain and a heart really want to see top female cyclists like Laura Kenny being beaten by somebody male?

Helleofabore · 20/02/2022 09:27

It is British cycling prepared to sacrifice the women for the sake of the star that is supposedly going to land in their lap after the prerequisite time on hormones is up?

From what I have read, and seeing their double down, I wouldn’t put it past them. To go for the glory using the rules to assist them. They know it is now just a matter of time before a new star will come into the team.

If I was a female on team GB cycling now, I would be feeling very unsupported and exposed.

Helleofabore · 20/02/2022 09:40

Sorry. That ‘it’ should not be at the start of that post.

Feralgoose · 04/03/2022 09:53

So if you volunteer for British Cycling's Breeze programme you'll have got the email newsletter. They now want us to promote cervical screening on breeze rides, which is comical as breeze rides are now mixed sex and allow any male to join a ride or even lead a ride, even though they're advertised as "women only" and "female led". Unfortunately British Cycling hasn't provided any training in health promotion for us volunteers, even though we're expected to encourage women to get smear tests, no answers to questions about smear tests or any training in how to deal with it if women are upset by it. Despite far far larger numbers of women being killed by smoking every year, they don't want us to tell Breeze participants just stop smoking.

We've got to sign a volunteer agreement every year to lead the rides and there's a compulsory question where you've got to say you "identify as female". Even the new BC policy defines gender as "the social, and cultural construction of what it means to be masculine or feminine, including roles, expectations, and behaviour" - so stereotypes! Yet they expect us to subscribe to these stereotypes to lead a 'women only ride', or just lie and say we subscribe to them at least. I despair.

It gets better though, because in the same email British Cycling are inviting questions about their new transgender policy. This is the policy that British Cycling will discipline us if we raise any concerns about. They claim questions will all be submitted anonymously, but they're going to the compliance team who are the people who will discipline us for asking them. Despite us volunteers being directly affected by this policy, they haven't told us a thing about the results of the public consultation which happened last year or the year before. I can't imagine this will be any different, but it might be a good time for anybody who wants to say anything about the policy to get in touch with British Cycling, you might want to do this anonymously. You can see the British Cycling transgender policy at the end of the new British Cycling 2022 handbook and contact details on this page

www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20220127-about-bc-news-An-update-on-our-Transgender-and-Non-Binary-Participation-Policy-0

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