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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

why did anyone vote for Crispin Blunt

113 replies

VelvetChairGirl · 18/01/2022 12:32

what a despicable person standing in parliament trying to deny others their rights under law.

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allmywhat · 09/03/2022 09:33

What do they mean by “explain herself”?

I assume that “point at a big piece of paper with “WOMEN DON’T HAVE PENISES” written on it in crayon and smile at them till they get it” wouldn’t be an adequate explanation?

But I’m hard-pressed to think of a way of “explaining” the bloody obvious that wouldn’t make the situation worse.

Dear Mr Spoonerism, I think it’s wrong to bully and gaslight rape victims. I hold this opinion for the reason that I’m not a fucking sociopath. Yours sincerely, etc

^Dear Crispin,
The background of my Tweet is the evolution of anisogamy over a billion years ago…^

It’s just a ridiculous demand, fuck them.

Signalbox · 09/03/2022 09:36

I can't wait to see her explanation. I have the feeling that Lisa isn't going to back down!

SurreyPCC · 10/03/2022 18:36

@Signalbox

I can't wait to see her explanation. I have the feeling that Lisa isn't going to back down!
You'd be right Wink
SpringCalling · 10/03/2022 19:14

He hee go for it Lisa!

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 10/03/2022 19:14
Flowers

Nice work Lisa, wishing power to your elbow

DomesticatedZombie · 10/03/2022 19:34

Yay, Lisa!

I think most people seeing this will understand exactly what you're saying and why.

Thank you for all that you do.

MNadactyl · 10/03/2022 20:12

Good to hear, Lisa!

ThanksWineCake

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 20:15

Lisa ThanksWine

Mollyollydolly · 11/03/2022 01:14

I'd love Kellie-Jay to stand against him at the next general election. I'd travel the length of the country to campaign for her.

Datun · 11/03/2022 01:23

You'd be right wink

Excellent news. These men have been trying to hold back the tide of public opinion for so long, they cant tell that they're just about to sink.

oncemoreunto · 11/03/2022 01:47

Lisa 💐🍷💪

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/03/2022 01:59

@Ereshkigalangcleg

and yet there is a current thread on AIBU with a number of posters vehemently declaring their support for the Tories because 'at least they know what a woman is'.

Er no, they're saying they don't want to vote for Labour for the same reasons that they don't appreciate the machinations of Crispin Blunt MP on this issue. Not the same thing.

No, they're definitely saying at least the Tories know what a woman is. They're not saying except Crispin Blunt/Penny Mordaunt / PM Johnson etc. They actually fell for the lie that the Conservatives were the "only party who knows what a woman is" despite the fact that they started the Trans shit show.
TooBigForMyBoots · 11/03/2022 02:00

Strength to you Lisa.Flowers

jellyfrizz · 11/03/2022 08:24

It’s interesting that Blunt doesn’t mention any of his extensive TRA work on his constituency page. Wonder why? Hmm

jellyfrizz · 11/03/2022 08:26

www.blunt4reigate.com

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/03/2022 09:03

Certain ploppers are fond of bursting in to shout "[right-wing person] agrees that water is wet human beings can't change sex, and if you agree with him/her, you're a horrible person"!

Given that it has been frequently implied that the ethical way to arrive at opinions is just to say the opposite of [right-wing hate figure] whatever it is, what can we say about...

three men who complained on behalf of unnamed, unidentified rapists?

If I am supposed to be all the hate words under the sun if it turns out I like the same flavour of ice-cream as Trump, then what are these men who are upset on behalf of unidentified rapists?

Well?

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 12/03/2022 13:33

They actually fell for the lie that the Conservatives were the "only party who knows what a woman is" despite the fact that they started the Trans shit show.

Tony Blair’s Labour government passed the Gender Recognition Act 2004. That’s what let the trans movement get where it is today. As a former Labour voter I hate to admit this.

BootsAndRoots · 12/03/2022 19:06

He seems like one of those former closeted men who is now trying to make up for lost time. He is now OTT with support for gay rights, after denying his sexuality (and probably supporting anti-gay legislation) for so long.

SeaRabbit · 13/03/2022 10:14

What is it about Reigate? Keir Starmer went to Reigate Grammar School and was obviously never taught basic biology, and then there's Crispy...

TooBigForMyBoots · 13/03/2022 23:13

@thinkingaboutLangCleg, the Tory government decided that the 2004 Act didnt go far enough and set out from a point of TWAW when they decided to reform it. See Justine Greening and Penny Mordaunt.

In 2021, Penny Mordaunt used her position on the Front Bench to rail against HoL amendments to protect women's rights, to the Tory proposed reforms to the GRA.

Penny Mordaunt is being touted as a future Tory leader.

Scorchedterf · 13/03/2022 23:36

I hope Crispin is deselected ,I’ve seen him interact with his staff. They call him Sir , as in yes sir no sir, they are very deferential towards him , I thought then that he must be a right bastard to work for.

OhHolyJesus · 06/04/2022 16:08

Blunt's statement in the cancellation of the Safe To Be Me conference:

"I am issuing this statement as chair of APPG in response to PMs interview and cancellation of Safe to be me.
I hope it is, and certainly intended, to find the common ground, whilst representing mainstream LGBT view as I assess it.

It is of course disappointing that our Prime Minister has yet to fully appreciate the sensitivities and complexities around gender identity as well as sexuality. We hope the further work he has commissioned will address this. Much of it has already been done not least around conversion therapy and the consultation two years ago on reform of the Gender Recognition Act. His judgement and that of many of his Parliamentary colleagues is also being clouded by those who have an agenda to push and those who have been captured by its seeming simplicities, even in the absence of much sustained evidence of harm from an inclusive and affirming approach around personal gender identity. We, as part of the wider mainstream LGBT lobby, should not forget that we’ve had a long time to think the issues through. Those of us from a minority sexuality do so usually from a position of instinctive sympathy for those wrestling with their gender identity. Even among our number are a few who see the debate over gender as a threat to our sexuality identity and use a chromosomal based understanding of biology to differentiate sexuality from gender identity issues. The science around sexual orientation and gender identity are equally complex.

What should unite us is an appreciation that these feelings are real, of central importance to most of us, and as individual humans we deserve the right to be ourselves in any free society worthy of the name.

How we are treated, whether criminalised, or tolerated, or appreciated and celebrated for the difference we inevitably provide by the societies in
which we happen to live, has rightly become a key marker for how different human societies are judged. Alongside other personal characteristics about which we can do nothing, including ethnicity, gender, disability and age
this question is of central importance in assessing just how tolerant and free our societies actually are.
There is no immutable law that we will progress from criminalisation to celebration of our difference by our societies. We have no choice but to work to sustain our personal freedoms, to continue to make the case that these freedoms are good for all, economically and socially, in our societies and help those who languish under discrimination and criminalisation win their freedom to the benefit of all.
That is why I regret the cancellation of this conference that could have advanced the wider case for acceptance and tolerance of all LGBT+ people around the world. The economic and business case for inclusion is an important part of this wider agenda. I and I’m certain all colleagues who support the work of this Group will continue to make the global case for inclusion as well as resolve this British discussion on the basis of evidence, and with kindness towards each other, as we widen our understanding."

Has Liz Truss actually cancelled it yet?

OhHolyJesus · 06/04/2022 16:10

"Alongside other personal characteristics about which we can do nothing, including ethnicity, gender, disability and age"

It's sex not gender Crispin, anyone who can Google protected characteristics will know this.

Apollo441 · 06/04/2022 16:29

If it's cancelled it is because all the LBGTQIA+ groups have done a mass flounce, insisting on gender identity conversion be included in the legislation with no debate.

jkrfan · 06/04/2022 23:10

[quote TooBigForMyBoots]@thinkingaboutLangCleg, the Tory government decided that the 2004 Act didnt go far enough and set out from a point of TWAW when they decided to reform it. See Justine Greening and Penny Mordaunt.

In 2021, Penny Mordaunt used her position on the Front Bench to rail against HoL amendments to protect women's rights, to the Tory proposed reforms to the GRA.

Penny Mordaunt is being touted as a future Tory leader.[/quote]
Nope that was under Theresa May (who was distracted by Brexit) and Johnson decided not to go ahead with self-id. All the UK parties have been captured by gender identity ideology but the Tories are the least captured probably because they allow free speech and believe in pragmatism.
It is not sensible to ignore the existing sex-based rights of 50% of the population and even sillier to endanger their kids' health with affirmative care.
There has never been a point where all Tories believe TWAW. Their voters most certainly do not and never have nor never will.