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Rachel Meade, Social Worker, being suspended for 'transphobic' Facebook postss

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MidCenturyClegs · 13/01/2022 14:58

A social worker, Rachel Meade, is in the process of challenging Social Work England - their professional regulatory body - as she believes she may have discriminated against her due to gender critical beliefs.

This is because during the GRA consultation, she shared posts on her private FB page, from FPFW, WPUK & Standing for Women, among others. These were being secretly screenshot by an ex colleague who then sent these to Social Work England, claiming that the posts were from groups who were discriminatory in nature, transphobic and who wanted to remove trans rights.

SWE decided that this was the case and sanctioned her, leading her employer to investigate her for gross misconduct. They placed a public Fitness to practice warning sanction on her record for a year. She has been suspended by her employer as a result of Social Work England's decision and will be facing a disciplinary process which she has been told may end in her dismissal.

She is taking both Social Work England and her employer to a tribunal; this is a really important case as if she wins, it will clarify in law that not only are employers bound to protect gender critical beliefs under EA2010, but Regulatory bodies are bound by it too.

This will mean that all regulatory bodies will have to recognise that the gender critical beliefs of their registrants/members are protected in law. This will cover social work, healthcare & law as well as any other areas covered by regulatory bodies so will have far reaching effects.

I have heard that she may be setting up a crowdfunder but obviously this is not the place to advertise that, but if people wish to donate should be easy to find.
Just saw that the Times have covered this too.

twitter.com/EmilieCCole/status/1481638709724270593?s=20

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VelvetChairGirl · 13/01/2022 18:21

*So people who support trans ideology need to shut the fuck up when talking to women? I've never seen anyone ruder than a trans supporter TBH and would welcome them being penalised for sending death and rape threats and talking about women as if our bodies are commodities. They are demanding the right to be rude according to their perspective with impunity.

More ridiculous nonsense demanding that women do the 'being nice' and not talk to others the way they are spoken to.*

But we are not allowed to be protected in law, hating on women is perfectly legal no matter how much we get murdered and beaten etc, they refuse to make misogyny a hate crime because they are misogynists themselves and they know it.

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2022 18:24

@RepentMotherfucker

Any ideas from Mr Blobby (real or identified) today?
Mr Blobby's recent postings are a little crude to repeat.
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 13/01/2022 18:28

@Omicrone

Do you know what, in a few years time people are going to be looking back on the way that women like Rachel Meade and Maya Forstater have been treated and absolutely cringe.

When society lost its mind.

Yes, it will be looked at like the Salem witch trials. People will be trying to figure out what caused the mass hysteria.
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 13/01/2022 18:29

As in - hysteria which makes people deny science and think that the rights of one small group of people are all that matter.

Feministwoman · 13/01/2022 18:29

Done a bit of gardening

VelvetChairGirl · 13/01/2022 18:29

Whatiswrongwithmyknee

and they will say lessons will be learned, but they never are.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 13/01/2022 18:33

@VelvetChairGirl

Whatiswrongwithmyknee

and they will say lessons will be learned, but they never are.

Not whilst it's only women paying the price
Wreath21 · 13/01/2022 18:38

To be clear, I was speaking generally when I referred to 'bigots and wingnuts'. The 'WAA I am being SILENCED (in several national newspapers, various radio shows, podcasts and quite a few television shows as well' position is also popular with the likes of Lawrence Fox and Tommy Robinson, of course.

Wreath21 · 13/01/2022 18:47

Though this is also an interesting article about why the gender-critical types are so obsessed with their own [[https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/gender/2022/01/12/re-centring-white-victimhood-in-the-age-of-black-lives-matter-a-terf-project/?fbclid=IwAR285gZ3_RX7i2EXp9qvRm60drkUquKb2q0YSmpVstYTW3ZTSAckSzT2AMo]]

CompleteGinasaur · 13/01/2022 18:48

Thanks for bumping,Wreath21. Reminded me to go and do some gardening, so that's good, isn't it?

CompleteGinasaur · 13/01/2022 18:50

Oops, I left out a space, I do so apologise, Wreath...

CompleteGinasaur · 13/01/2022 18:53

And thanks for that article, though you're making an awfully large and rather racist assumption about posters' ethnicity. Quite a bigoted assumption, in fact..

Barrawarra · 13/01/2022 18:59

I haven’t had time to rtft so this has maybe been discussed but as a social worker I am so delighted by this case. It is clear in sw that views expressed privately can be sanctionable, and I think rightly so. I remember a case of a sw denouncing gay marriage on his private page and it was debated as he came from a culture where gay marriage remains criminal, but still this was assessed as a behaviour/view which was incompatible with his role in this country. I am careful about my GC views at work but I believe the time will come where it will be safer to be more open. I work with infants so I haven’t worked with many families where children are labelled trans so haven’t felt compelled to advocate for them in that sense, but I feel desperate to advocate about the safeguarding issues more widely in my organisation and speak up to challenge those in the profession. Thank you Rachel if you read this and I hope to be as brave as you.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 13/01/2022 19:00

[quote Wreath21]Though this is also an interesting article about why the gender-critical types are so obsessed with their own [[https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/gender/2022/01/12/re-centring-white-victimhood-in-the-age-of-black-lives-matter-a-terf-project/?fbclid=IwAR285gZ3_RX7i2EXp9qvRm60drkUquKb2q0YSmpVstYTW3ZTSAckSzT2AMo]][/quote]
This author is nothing short of an idiot.

"More specifically, I explore the function of so-called ‘gender critical’ feminism as a reactionary response to anti-racist and decolonial campaigns which aims to both reclaim the centrality of white women as the ultimate victim in public debates, and to divert attention from calls to recognise and address the role of feminist movements in upholding systems of white supremacy and imperialism worldwide."

The concept of the gender binary is built on racist assumptions about white middle-class stereotypes of masculinity and femininity. The societal expectations which have been forced on women of colour, where these are distinct from those forced on white women, are ignored. Trans ideology is inherently racist.

One of the core arguments of so-called ‘gender critical’ ideology is that trans women cannot be fully ‘accepted’ as women because their experience of womanhood is not identical to that of cis women and trans women can therefore not fully comprehend or empathise with the supposedly universal subordination of women. This argument rests on the fiction of a single female experience, a fiction which has routinely silenced and side-lined women who experience racism, colonial domination and other forms of oppression that cannot be singularly attributed to their gender

No, it really doesn't. No woman on this planet is suggesting that all women have the same experiences. They are in fact saying the exact opposite in many cases - i.e. that the only thing that binds women together is their biology, the impact of that (which is somewhat similar in many women) and the way society treats us because of our biology - an experience which can never be shared by someone who does not, or is thought not, to menstruate and potentially get pregnant.

is argument obviously denies the complexity of trans women’s experiences with a form of privilege that could only be accessed by denying a fundamental part of their identity. It also, however, blatantly singles out one form of privilege as unacceptable, while happily glossing over all other forms of power and domination that are at play in any group of women, such as those based on racial, class, ableist and heteronormative privilege.

It really doesn't, what a stupid thing to say. We are fully aware that female only spaces suffer from other forms of power and domination. Despite this authors patronising tone, women are not numptys. The fact that there are many other isms at play does not negate the need for women only spaces. However, if it did, this would be an argument for open spaces for all and no protected space for anyone whatsoever as clearly every single person who is experiencing discrimination is also able to discriminate on other grounds.

Such a pile of shit I could not continue reading. I guess this is what happens when you spend too long gazing at your own navel

It's clear that the misrepresentation of data rgarding

MrBIobby · 13/01/2022 19:09

@RepentMotherfucker

Any ideas from Mr Blobby (real or identified) today?
Mr Blobby has reviewed the evidence and considered the social workers actions within the framework of the social workers safeguarding duties, and the standards she is required to uphold as per the SW code of ethics / Social work England standards of practice.

Mr Blobby has concluded that the social worker was acting correctly, and that she hasn't broken any of the required standards.

Furthermore, the social worker has a duty to speak out where there is a clear breach of safeguarding.

Mr Blobby concludes that social work England have not followed their own guidelines, and the social worker certainly has a case against them.

Mr Blobby hopes that she wins, and notes that she has considerable backing from many other social work professionals in this case.

Hope this helps.

RepentMotherfucker · 13/01/2022 19:10

This author is nothing short of an idiot.

I got that from the title but thanks for reading it and taking one for the team Gin

I think the oeuvre of Blobby is possibly rather more suited to the TA line of argument.

RepentMotherfucker · 13/01/2022 19:10

Fucking awesome X post...

CompleteGinasaur · 13/01/2022 19:11

I couldn't get the link to work. Thanks Whatiswrongwithmyknee, now I don't have to bother confirming my worst suspicions about the quality of the "evidence" offered in support of the gratuitous insults.

MrBIobby · 13/01/2022 19:13

Mr Blobby's recent postings are a little crude to repeat.

Mr Blobby is never crude. Unless of course you have changed the meaning of the word crude to mean something entirely different.
It is best however to stick to the dictionary definitions of words, to enable easy communication.

Hope this helps.

JDaytona · 13/01/2022 19:16

@MrBIobby

Mr Blobby's recent postings are a little crude to repeat.

Mr Blobby is never crude. Unless of course you have changed the meaning of the word crude to mean something entirely different.
It is best however to stick to the dictionary definitions of words, to enable easy communication.

Hope this helps.

Grin
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 13/01/2022 19:18

@RepentMotherfucker

This author is nothing short of an idiot.

I got that from the title but thanks for reading it and taking one for the team Gin

I think the oeuvre of Blobby is possibly rather more suited to the TA line of argument.

You're welcome motherfucker!! I wish I could take the gin but I'm trying for a dry January. Reading something as shit as that article and even worse, something as shit as that article pretending to be insightful and in the least bit scientific does make me feel like I need a stiff drink though. I assume the author got through quite a lot of gin herself before writing it. I assume that is what made it impossible for her to sense-check her ramblings.
CompleteGinasaur · 13/01/2022 19:26

Crowdfunder's up £3000ish in the last hour to £7000. They also serve who only sit and pledge..

ArabellaScott · 13/01/2022 19:27

@Wreath21

To be clear, I was speaking generally when I referred to 'bigots and wingnuts'. The 'WAA I am being SILENCED (in several national newspapers, various radio shows, podcasts and quite a few television shows as well' position is also popular with the likes of Lawrence Fox and Tommy Robinson, of course.
what are you on about pal?
OhDear2200 · 13/01/2022 19:38

@Wreath21 I really, really hope you’re not a social worker. If you are you need to do some serious training on your relationship based practice, anti discriminatory practice and solution focused approaches. Such blatant expressions of anger is not encouraged as a social work model of practice. I suggest you do some reflection and think about how you can enter into a more helpful discourse.

OhDear2200 · 13/01/2022 19:41

@ArabellaScott I think the suggestion is that if you’re GC you’re also a racist nazi?

Sigh. It’s all been done before and soooooo simplistic.

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